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Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:34:24 PM
One last thing RJ has said that the forsaken lie even to themselves hence Rahvin's belief that he could take Lanfear. Its probably a case that the forsaken who were always at the top of the pile are a lot more accurate in judging their abilities and that of their enemies hence they don't get carried away with overconfidence.


I rather agree with this, especially since, despite Aginor's teachings and Rahvin's thought that he could overwhelm Lanfear, neither of tried anything of the sort. The only one who did was Sammael, not as strong as the most powerful of the males, but who was prepared to take advantage of an opening, in his case an argument between Graendal and Lanfear, to wipe out both opponents - if he had not been restrained in producing a surprise attack, he might have wiped out two very powerful opponents.
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The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power Sidious - 12/09/2009 09:27:20 PM 1815 Views
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Re: Some thoughts about Semmy Sidious - 13/09/2009 08:33:28 AM 1056 Views
Of course... Digital_Eon - 13/09/2009 08:36:39 AM 857 Views
I've been thinking the same for years Dragonsworn - 12/09/2009 11:25:02 PM 968 Views
The Big White Book says... Yvves - 12/09/2009 11:46:43 PM 1032 Views
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Re: Not Aginor NaClH2O - 13/09/2009 03:16:13 PM 933 Views
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Fact is, the bwb is untrustworthy Shannow - 13/09/2009 05:54:28 PM 911 Views
We must either use all the quotes from the BWB or none of them Sidious - 13/09/2009 06:07:46 PM 945 Views
Or... Shannow - 13/09/2009 08:41:23 PM 880 Views
Re: Or... Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:46:52 AM 857 Views
But, RJ himself said that the BWB was written from the standpoint of a scholar RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:42:59 PM 888 Views
Re: Not Aginor NaClH2O - 13/09/2009 08:17:28 PM 850 Views
It all depends on how you define "powerful" Lanfear - 14/09/2009 02:30:31 AM 964 Views
I agree 101%. *NM* Yvves - 14/09/2009 03:49:51 AM 488 Views
I think power is much more than raw strength Sidious - 14/09/2009 05:00:10 AM 854 Views
I agree for the most part, but disagree on one thing. Lanfear - 14/09/2009 07:52:10 PM 1006 Views
Re: The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power Bulgakov - 12/09/2009 11:48:03 PM 895 Views
the other reason NaClH2O - 13/09/2009 03:24:24 PM 824 Views
So is graendal similar to lanfear then? Shannow - 13/09/2009 05:41:42 PM 830 Views
Graendal could fight Lanfear and win Sidious - 13/09/2009 06:01:57 PM 1386 Views
Graendal herself says... Shannow - 13/09/2009 09:08:46 PM 856 Views
Re: Graendal herself says... Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:48:37 AM 910 Views
Doesn't Graendal have an Angreal now? Rurouni_Kenshin - 17/09/2009 03:29:10 AM 940 Views
Re: Graendal herself says... Lanfear - 15/09/2009 05:36:53 PM 768 Views
Lanfear was more powerful than Graendal, but Cyndane has less power beetnemesis - 13/09/2009 10:19:35 PM 866 Views
Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? Watcher - 13/09/2009 06:05:11 PM 1009 Views
I agree with this Sidious - 13/09/2009 06:15:24 PM 999 Views
Compulsion=any other deadly weave. Doesn't really change matters beetnemesis - 13/09/2009 10:23:40 PM 879 Views
Excellent point *NM* Shannow - 13/09/2009 10:35:08 PM 496 Views
But it did give her an edge, and against two forsaken. *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:12:09 PM 467 Views
Hm? When? *NM* beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:04:10 PM 404 Views
tPoD, when she compelled Cyndane and Moghedien. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 10:19:23 PM 446 Views
Not at all Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 926 Views
Using Compulsion on someone doesn't seem mechanically different beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:03:41 PM 771 Views
I'm not so sure about that Sidious - 14/09/2009 09:36:45 PM 865 Views
Totally agree Shannow - 14/09/2009 10:26:07 PM 688 Views
I don't agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:33:04 PM 982 Views
Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:34:24 PM 823 Views
But Graendal confronted her... twice! *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 07:48:29 PM 419 Views
Apparently only the third time counts *NM* Sidious - 13/09/2009 08:00:37 PM 459 Views
But the third time's supposed to be lucky. So that won't count either. *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:26:18 PM 481 Views
Really? Shannow - 13/09/2009 08:36:33 PM 836 Views
No falsely... fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:25:40 PM 1063 Views
That's pretty much my opinion in a nutshell Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:56:15 AM 1014 Views
And, of course, the male and female OP strength ranks might not even correlate that much RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:41:58 PM 788 Views
They correlate on some critical points Sidious - 14/09/2009 06:57:43 PM 971 Views
That's not exactly what I'm referring to. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:36:29 PM 744 Views
But then we are discussing the same thing Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:59:04 PM 885 Views
I think, outside of semantics, our main disagreement doesn't lie amid the higher tiers RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 03:53:09 PM 752 Views
Probably Sidious - 16/09/2009 06:31:27 PM 900 Views
Re: Probably RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 07:19:03 PM 873 Views
Re: Probably Sidious - 16/09/2009 08:59:31 PM 829 Views
Re: Probably RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/09/2009 07:03:09 PM 1167 Views
Ahh the old debate... fionwe1987 - 17/09/2009 12:42:36 AM 836 Views
Re: Ahh the old debate... Sidious - 17/09/2009 05:26:52 AM 800 Views
I only disagree on one point, I think they are all rather equal in potential, incl. Ishamael RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:28:12 PM 857 Views
I do think Ishamel is special Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:04:03 PM 947 Views
He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 11:36:42 PM 895 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 08:36:20 AM 870 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 03:48:34 PM 863 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 04:39:39 PM 846 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:53:00 PM 849 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:47:45 PM 826 Views
The more interesting question is... AgentOrange - 14/09/2009 06:34:11 PM 788 Views
Hmmm Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:04:34 PM 837 Views
I think we'll see Graendal vs. Aran'gar. fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 07:31:16 PM 895 Views
Ah yes, that makes sense, and would be great! *NM* Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:40:29 PM 719 Views
Yeah. Though I think its no competition. Graendal has got to be better than a walking tree! fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 07:50:09 PM 785 Views
They do imply that Graendal is a lot more dangerous than she looks beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:08:43 PM 814 Views
I've never underestimated Graendal Sidious - 14/09/2009 09:42:49 PM 862 Views
Yeah... her frivolity was always a red flag for me too. fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 10:18:40 PM 897 Views
To me, she is the most lethal. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 05:18:10 PM 658 Views
Yup... fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 06:39:20 PM 706 Views
I still like Lanfear more Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:51:03 PM 801 Views
Bah! She's an idiot! fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 07:06:06 PM 803 Views
only in love *NM* Sidious - 15/09/2009 07:23:29 PM 764 Views
Graendal did not beat me and Moghedien Lanfear - 15/09/2009 05:59:39 PM 886 Views
Agreed Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:36:48 PM 784 Views
Ummm... how do we know? fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 911 Views
Re: Ummm... how do we know? Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:56:21 PM 834 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 07:07:45 PM 1012 Views
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