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Yeah... her frivolity was always a red flag for me too. fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 10:18:40 PM

From the beginning I've always thought she was one of the most dangerous Forsaken, a killer behind a frivolous disguise.

I don't for a second think that the angreal she found is a red herring. I'm convinced it will allow her to openly fight the greatest of all her enemies - Rand.


I've always felt that while Graendal was not the strongest female Forsaken, she certainly was the most dangerous. I pity Rand the day he has to fight her, because she's going to know his weaknesses and make use of them, not just hurl shields at him.
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The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power Sidious - 12/09/2009 09:27:20 PM 1762 Views
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Of course... Digital_Eon - 13/09/2009 08:36:39 AM 809 Views
I've been thinking the same for years Dragonsworn - 12/09/2009 11:25:02 PM 916 Views
The Big White Book says... Yvves - 12/09/2009 11:46:43 PM 981 Views
Not Aginor Sidious - 13/09/2009 08:36:37 AM 990 Views
Re: Not Aginor NaClH2O - 13/09/2009 03:16:13 PM 881 Views
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Fact is, the bwb is untrustworthy Shannow - 13/09/2009 05:54:28 PM 839 Views
We must either use all the quotes from the BWB or none of them Sidious - 13/09/2009 06:07:46 PM 892 Views
Or... Shannow - 13/09/2009 08:41:23 PM 836 Views
Re: Or... Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:46:52 AM 795 Views
But, RJ himself said that the BWB was written from the standpoint of a scholar RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:42:59 PM 824 Views
Re: Not Aginor NaClH2O - 13/09/2009 08:17:28 PM 798 Views
It all depends on how you define "powerful" Lanfear - 14/09/2009 02:30:31 AM 915 Views
I agree 101%. *NM* Yvves - 14/09/2009 03:49:51 AM 463 Views
I think power is much more than raw strength Sidious - 14/09/2009 05:00:10 AM 798 Views
I agree for the most part, but disagree on one thing. Lanfear - 14/09/2009 07:52:10 PM 927 Views
Re: The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power Bulgakov - 12/09/2009 11:48:03 PM 847 Views
the other reason NaClH2O - 13/09/2009 03:24:24 PM 780 Views
So is graendal similar to lanfear then? Shannow - 13/09/2009 05:41:42 PM 784 Views
Graendal could fight Lanfear and win Sidious - 13/09/2009 06:01:57 PM 1324 Views
Graendal herself says... Shannow - 13/09/2009 09:08:46 PM 806 Views
Re: Graendal herself says... Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:48:37 AM 828 Views
Doesn't Graendal have an Angreal now? Rurouni_Kenshin - 17/09/2009 03:29:10 AM 860 Views
Re: Graendal herself says... Lanfear - 15/09/2009 05:36:53 PM 720 Views
Lanfear was more powerful than Graendal, but Cyndane has less power beetnemesis - 13/09/2009 10:19:35 PM 812 Views
Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? Watcher - 13/09/2009 06:05:11 PM 925 Views
I agree with this Sidious - 13/09/2009 06:15:24 PM 946 Views
Compulsion=any other deadly weave. Doesn't really change matters beetnemesis - 13/09/2009 10:23:40 PM 802 Views
Excellent point *NM* Shannow - 13/09/2009 10:35:08 PM 470 Views
But it did give her an edge, and against two forsaken. *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:12:09 PM 445 Views
Hm? When? *NM* beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:04:10 PM 372 Views
tPoD, when she compelled Cyndane and Moghedien. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 10:19:23 PM 423 Views
Not at all Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 865 Views
Using Compulsion on someone doesn't seem mechanically different beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:03:41 PM 711 Views
I'm not so sure about that Sidious - 14/09/2009 09:36:45 PM 817 Views
Totally agree Shannow - 14/09/2009 10:26:07 PM 623 Views
I don't agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:33:04 PM 930 Views
Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:34:24 PM 765 Views
But Graendal confronted her... twice! *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 07:48:29 PM 398 Views
Apparently only the third time counts *NM* Sidious - 13/09/2009 08:00:37 PM 432 Views
But the third time's supposed to be lucky. So that won't count either. *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:26:18 PM 458 Views
Really? Shannow - 13/09/2009 08:36:33 PM 780 Views
No falsely... fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:25:40 PM 997 Views
That's pretty much my opinion in a nutshell Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:56:15 AM 927 Views
And, of course, the male and female OP strength ranks might not even correlate that much RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:41:58 PM 743 Views
They correlate on some critical points Sidious - 14/09/2009 06:57:43 PM 875 Views
That's not exactly what I'm referring to. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:36:29 PM 693 Views
But then we are discussing the same thing Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:59:04 PM 837 Views
I think, outside of semantics, our main disagreement doesn't lie amid the higher tiers RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 03:53:09 PM 711 Views
Probably Sidious - 16/09/2009 06:31:27 PM 853 Views
Re: Probably RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 07:19:03 PM 821 Views
Re: Probably Sidious - 16/09/2009 08:59:31 PM 772 Views
Re: Probably RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/09/2009 07:03:09 PM 1107 Views
Ahh the old debate... fionwe1987 - 17/09/2009 12:42:36 AM 791 Views
Re: Ahh the old debate... Sidious - 17/09/2009 05:26:52 AM 743 Views
I only disagree on one point, I think they are all rather equal in potential, incl. Ishamael RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:28:12 PM 798 Views
I do think Ishamel is special Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:04:03 PM 885 Views
He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 11:36:42 PM 838 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 08:36:20 AM 810 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 03:48:34 PM 799 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 04:39:39 PM 797 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:53:00 PM 790 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:47:45 PM 750 Views
The more interesting question is... AgentOrange - 14/09/2009 06:34:11 PM 742 Views
Hmmm Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:04:34 PM 770 Views
I think we'll see Graendal vs. Aran'gar. fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 07:31:16 PM 840 Views
Ah yes, that makes sense, and would be great! *NM* Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:40:29 PM 640 Views
Yeah. Though I think its no competition. Graendal has got to be better than a walking tree! fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 07:50:09 PM 734 Views
They do imply that Graendal is a lot more dangerous than she looks beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:08:43 PM 764 Views
I've never underestimated Graendal Sidious - 14/09/2009 09:42:49 PM 816 Views
Yeah... her frivolity was always a red flag for me too. fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 10:18:40 PM 799 Views
To me, she is the most lethal. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 05:18:10 PM 616 Views
Yup... fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 06:39:20 PM 665 Views
I still like Lanfear more Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:51:03 PM 761 Views
Bah! She's an idiot! fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 07:06:06 PM 760 Views
only in love *NM* Sidious - 15/09/2009 07:23:29 PM 725 Views
Graendal did not beat me and Moghedien Lanfear - 15/09/2009 05:59:39 PM 841 Views
Agreed Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:36:48 PM 737 Views
Ummm... how do we know? fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 860 Views
Re: Ummm... how do we know? Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:56:21 PM 782 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 07:07:45 PM 942 Views
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