than the mechanisms they use to measure it are inaccurate. You can move at a rapid pace and be calm. Calm is a state of mind, not a state of body. One of my, mentally, calmest times is when I'm galloping on a horse. Not a very passive activity, that.
Calm is a state of body in this test. It's a display of mental discipline here. While you can be mentally calm while engaging in a strenuous activity that is a different experience than being presented with a stressful situation and being challenged to remain calm. First sign of cracks is that you start to physically show panic.
IMO Nynaeve passed because she didn't actually panic so much as she took initiative in these situations. She maintained her focus on the tasks themselves (completing the 100 weaves), but she took the whole test to another level by simultaneously defeating the tests, she accomplished more than the test was designed for.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Nynaeve's stupidity and the test for Aes Sedai
- 07/12/2010 08:27:05 PM
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Way to totally misunderstand the chapter
- 07/12/2010 09:39:08 PM
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I second this
- 07/12/2010 10:10:24 PM
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your bold is stuck. *NM*
- 07/12/2010 10:21:22 PM
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*NM*
On the whole, the test is innappropriate IMO
- 07/12/2010 09:40:08 PM
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nice post
- 08/12/2010 09:20:02 AM
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Isn't it implied
- 08/12/2010 02:16:58 PM
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no they were students together
- 08/12/2010 05:33:17 PM
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No, Lanfear was older than Lews
- 08/12/2010 07:21:45 PM
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Where on earth did you get that from?
- 08/12/2010 08:41:16 PM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
- 09/12/2010 10:27:20 AM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
- 09/12/2010 03:56:32 PM
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I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
- 09/12/2010 04:34:23 PM
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Re: I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
- 09/12/2010 05:43:40 PM
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I think skill with Saidar is easy enough to judge as it's a simple matter to see the skill
- 08/12/2010 05:37:27 PM
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I think the greens should have been on Nynaeve's side as well
- 08/12/2010 06:18:16 PM
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Problem is they are Aes Sedai and thus more likley to be political rather than rational! *NM*
- 08/12/2010 08:52:00 PM
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Re: nice post
- 09/12/2010 01:23:50 PM
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On the matter of strength
- 09/12/2010 08:51:36 PM
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Strength was "prized" in the AoL ... but lack of strength was not a negative
- 12/12/2010 01:41:08 AM
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Yes. How dare she not conform with every other fucking mindless stupid WT Aes Sedai *NM*
- 07/12/2010 11:36:52 PM
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Status is not an end in itself. *NM*
- 07/12/2010 11:52:37 PM
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They're not really stupid...
- 08/12/2010 01:00:20 AM
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Not saying they are. It's just that most AS that we've come across
- 08/12/2010 02:20:05 AM
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They're constantly outsmarted by a teenage girl that has spent most of her life in a damn farm.
- 08/12/2010 10:32:50 AM
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Bah...
- 09/12/2010 10:56:24 AM
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I did not say all Aes Sedai are stupid, I said all WT Aes Sedai are stupid.
- 10/12/2010 09:19:52 AM
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You are not only wrong in your call,
- 08/12/2010 04:39:44 AM
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Re: You are not only wrong in your call,
- 08/12/2010 09:13:37 AM
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if that is the purpose of the test
- 08/12/2010 01:34:45 PM
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minor disagreement
- 08/12/2010 05:27:51 PM
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Yes, but you can be not-panicked and not calm of body
- 08/12/2010 06:38:56 PM
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not really the same thing as what the AS are getting at though
- 08/12/2010 09:02:05 PM
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that's retarded, imo
- 09/12/2010 12:21:27 AM
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Oh it's totally stupid!
- 09/12/2010 04:37:14 PM
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No I know why she took the job. I just don't understand why she got it
- 09/12/2010 04:52:34 PM
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I think Elaida just smarmed up at the right time, Morgase was very young then
- 09/12/2010 05:52:29 PM
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Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
- 08/12/2010 06:48:50 PM
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I think it has already been established that the purpose of the test is to ensure that
- 08/12/2010 09:59:18 PM
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Yeah, but how does that work?
- 08/12/2010 10:24:35 PM
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Somewhere in the sub-conscious they know what they're doing is important to them.
- 09/12/2010 12:20:47 AM
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Even so, it wouldn't work.
- 09/12/2010 03:32:55 AM
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I think if this thread has established anything it's that the test is severely flawed. *NM*
- 09/12/2010 09:24:48 PM
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Another headless chicken example.
- 09/12/2010 12:30:02 AM
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the headless chicken is just such a lovely metaphor for panic 
*NM*
- 09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM
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*NM*
- 09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM
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Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
- 09/12/2010 12:07:15 PM
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You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
- 09/12/2010 02:59:50 AM
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Re: You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
- 09/12/2010 09:26:21 AM
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That's not the dilema
- 09/12/2010 05:23:19 PM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with Cannoli. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
- 09/12/2010 09:55:20 PM
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That's not what it's really about
- 10/12/2010 05:44:12 AM
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This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 03:46:31 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 09:40:09 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 02:04:02 PM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 11:26:40 AM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with fionwe1987. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
- 10/12/2010 03:53:25 PM
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