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Nope, the Sitters were always stupid Zeratul Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 12:37:05 PM
Yeah, it was mainly Siuan's plans that outsmarted them before TGS, but the Sitters shouldn't have allowed Siuan to get close to Egwene in the first place. They knew Siuan holds a grudge against them for not allowing her to return as Amyrlin, so why give her a chance to get back at them by helping Egwene? Also if they wanted to keep Egwene a figurehead, giving her unrestricted access to the knowledge of Tower law and custom that Siuan had, was simply idiotic. They should've instead appointed some lo level Brown they could keep in check to educate Egwene on protocol.

Then there's the the whole Leane - Siuan fake hatred which kep all Sitters fooled for months. Yet Nynaeve figured out it was a ruse about 15 seconds after she met Siuan in Salidar.

The Sitters in the Tower were even more stupid since they allowed Elaida to do whatever the hell she wanted, even though she went from disaster to disaster.
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Nynaeve's stupidity and the test for Aes Sedai Sidious - 07/12/2010 08:27:05 PM 4983 Views
Just like all women. Great Lord of Chaos - 07/12/2010 09:15:12 PM 1577 Views
Way to totally misunderstand the chapter Icarium - 07/12/2010 09:39:08 PM 2071 Views
I second this redhand - 07/12/2010 10:10:24 PM 1760 Views
your bold is stuck. *NM* LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 10:21:22 PM 769 Views
He BOLDLY seconded it... *NM* HyogaRott - 08/12/2010 03:04:33 PM 736 Views
which is quite excellent. I was just leting him know *NM* LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 03:28:24 PM 644 Views
I think that statement says it all. LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 10:19:50 PM 1727 Views
Thanks. That's exactly what I think. ˥ɐ ʎpu∀ɹ - 08/12/2010 08:29:28 AM 1640 Views
+1, well said *NM* Lord Haart - 08/12/2010 11:19:29 AM 712 Views
Agrees *NM* Onarishma - 09/12/2010 03:27:53 PM 1325 Views
Yes, the OP totally whiffed here. Nyn couldn't remember.. The Angry Druid - 11/12/2010 01:50:11 AM 1591 Views
On the whole, the test is innappropriate IMO DomA - 07/12/2010 09:40:08 PM 1831 Views
I agree with this entirely *NM* LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 10:07:52 PM 701 Views
very well said *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2010 10:23:06 PM 633 Views
It's kind of a chicken and egg thing BlackAdder - 07/12/2010 11:13:19 PM 1528 Views
Re: It's kind of a chicken and egg thing DomA - 08/12/2010 12:37:20 AM 1831 Views
nice post Sidious - 08/12/2010 09:20:02 AM 1643 Views
Isn't it implied guttering flame - 08/12/2010 02:16:58 PM 1370 Views
no they were students together darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 05:33:17 PM 1348 Views
No, Lanfear was older than Lews guttering flame - 08/12/2010 07:21:45 PM 1549 Views
Where on earth did you get that from? darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 08:41:16 PM 1474 Views
Re: Where on earth did you get that from? DomA - 09/12/2010 10:27:20 AM 1514 Views
Re: Where on earth did you get that from? Sidious - 09/12/2010 03:56:32 PM 1606 Views
I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time darius_sedai - 09/12/2010 04:34:23 PM 1534 Views
Re: I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time moratcorlm - 09/12/2010 05:43:40 PM 1479 Views
I think skill with Saidar is easy enough to judge as it's a simple matter to see the skill darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 05:37:27 PM 1417 Views
I think the greens should have been on Nynaeve's side as well LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 06:18:16 PM 1521 Views
Problem is they are Aes Sedai and thus more likley to be political rather than rational! *NM* darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 08:52:00 PM 1012 Views
too f'n true *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 12:17:58 AM 696 Views
Re: nice post DomA - 09/12/2010 01:23:50 PM 1625 Views
On the matter of strength guttering flame - 09/12/2010 08:51:36 PM 1431 Views
Re: On the matter of strength Timthetrolloc - 10/12/2010 10:38:42 AM 1484 Views
Strength was "prized" in the AoL ... but lack of strength was not a negative darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 01:41:08 AM 1399 Views
The test is stupid and it was about time someone pointed it out Zeratul - 07/12/2010 10:29:38 PM 1418 Views
Channeling under duress IS necessary for ALL Aes Sedai Urbannen - 05/01/2011 12:04:53 AM 1607 Views
Well BlackAdder - 07/12/2010 11:03:38 PM 1475 Views
Yes. How dare she not conform with every other fucking mindless stupid WT Aes Sedai *NM* Variant - 07/12/2010 11:36:52 PM 832 Views
Status is not an end in itself. *NM* Chas - 07/12/2010 11:52:37 PM 704 Views
They're not really stupid... DomA - 08/12/2010 01:00:20 AM 1515 Views
Not saying they are. It's just that most AS that we've come across Chas - 08/12/2010 02:20:05 AM 1224 Views
They're constantly outsmarted by a teenage girl that has spent most of her life in a damn farm. Variant - 08/12/2010 10:32:50 AM 1474 Views
yeah because that's so realistic Sidious - 08/12/2010 12:17:29 PM 1406 Views
Egwene had everything handed to her on a silver platter. Variant - 08/12/2010 11:50:17 PM 1371 Views
Bah... DomA - 09/12/2010 10:56:24 AM 1523 Views
Nope, the Sitters were always stupid Zeratul - 09/12/2010 12:37:05 PM 1489 Views
I did not say all Aes Sedai are stupid, I said all WT Aes Sedai are stupid. Variant - 10/12/2010 09:19:52 AM 1483 Views
cause being rural automatically makes you dumb?..... *NM* Onarishma - 09/12/2010 05:34:11 PM 797 Views
It makes you uneducated moratcorlm - 09/12/2010 05:46:49 PM 1390 Views
You are not only wrong in your call, Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2010 04:39:44 AM 1723 Views
Re: You are not only wrong in your call, Sidious - 08/12/2010 09:13:37 AM 1739 Views
if that is the purpose of the test LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 01:34:45 PM 1436 Views
minor disagreement darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 05:27:51 PM 1502 Views
Yes, but you can be not-panicked and not calm of body LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 06:38:56 PM 1364 Views
not really the same thing as what the AS are getting at though darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 09:02:05 PM 1982 Views
that's retarded, imo LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 12:21:27 AM 1532 Views
About Elaida... Zeratul - 09/12/2010 12:29:21 PM 1498 Views
...no wonder the Aes Sedai are floundering LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 01:43:42 PM 1235 Views
Oh it's totally stupid! darius_sedai - 09/12/2010 04:37:14 PM 1476 Views
No I know why she took the job. I just don't understand why she got it LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 04:52:34 PM 1399 Views
I think Elaida just smarmed up at the right time, Morgase was very young then darius_sedai - 09/12/2010 05:52:29 PM 1524 Views
hmm. curse smarming, then *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 07:47:26 PM 629 Views
As I recall... Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2010 05:18:25 AM 1428 Views
Oh. Well, I'm sorry then. Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2010 06:48:50 PM 1476 Views
I think it has already been established that the purpose of the test is to ensure that Chas - 08/12/2010 09:59:18 PM 1224 Views
Yeah, but how does that work? Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2010 10:24:35 PM 1375 Views
Somewhere in the sub-conscious they know what they're doing is important to them. Chas - 09/12/2010 12:20:47 AM 1479 Views
Even so, it wouldn't work. Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2010 03:32:55 AM 1405 Views
I think if this thread has established anything it's that the test is severely flawed. *NM* Chas - 09/12/2010 09:24:48 PM 692 Views
Another headless chicken example. Chas - 09/12/2010 12:30:02 AM 1382 Views
the headless chicken is just such a lovely metaphor for panic *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM 650 Views
Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then. Sidious - 09/12/2010 12:07:15 PM 1447 Views
Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then. Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2010 05:32:27 AM 1554 Views
The main difference guttering flame - 10/12/2010 05:50:43 AM 1421 Views
I'm not sure I agree. Skeeve the Great - 08/12/2010 12:17:12 PM 1495 Views
You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right" Cannoli - 09/12/2010 02:59:50 AM 1574 Views
I hate it when I love you just a little *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 04:46:57 AM 669 Views
Re: You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right" Sidious - 09/12/2010 09:26:21 AM 1453 Views
That's not the dilema Cannoli - 09/12/2010 05:23:19 PM 1640 Views
One of those few times where I completely agree with Cannoli. Give over Sidious. You're wrong. fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 09:55:20 PM 1404 Views
Bah! As if an opinion on the test's validity can be wrong *NM* Sidious - 10/12/2010 04:39:14 AM 1559 Views
That's not what it's really about guttering flame - 10/12/2010 05:44:12 AM 1364 Views
The paralells are not obvious to me... Cannoli - 15/12/2010 11:42:51 AM 1453 Views
More like guttering flame - 15/12/2010 01:26:40 PM 1370 Views
This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 03:46:31 AM 1432 Views
Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. Sidious - 09/12/2010 09:40:09 AM 1476 Views
Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 02:04:02 PM 1783 Views
Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. DomA - 09/12/2010 11:26:40 AM 1503 Views
Agreed... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 01:54:09 PM 1450 Views
One of those few times where I completely agree with fionwe1987. Give over Sidious. You're wrong. Cannoli - 10/12/2010 03:53:25 PM 1539 Views
no, she did not disagree. slight difference LadyLorraine - 10/12/2010 05:53:54 PM 1370 Views
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