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I think Elaida just smarmed up at the right time, Morgase was very young then darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 05:52:29 PM
She's not exactly the diplomatic advising type, even before she went bonkers. Even if she could demand the post in the WT, I'm surprised that she got it based on the fact she's wholly unqualified, and I'm surprised Morgase accepted her.


and not very secure on her Throne ... I think it's even implied in the books that Elaida may have begun the process with Morgase before she actually attained the Throne.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Nynaeve's stupidity and the test for Aes Sedai Sidious - 07/12/2010 08:27:05 PM 4469 Views
Just like all women. Great Lord of Chaos - 07/12/2010 09:15:12 PM 1299 Views
Way to totally misunderstand the chapter Icarium - 07/12/2010 09:39:08 PM 1784 Views
I second this redhand - 07/12/2010 10:10:24 PM 1457 Views
your bold is stuck. *NM* LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 10:21:22 PM 625 Views
He BOLDLY seconded it... *NM* HyogaRott - 08/12/2010 03:04:33 PM 596 Views
which is quite excellent. I was just leting him know *NM* LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 03:28:24 PM 504 Views
I think that statement says it all. LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 10:19:50 PM 1489 Views
Thanks. That's exactly what I think. ˥ɐ ʎpu∀ɹ - 08/12/2010 08:29:28 AM 1350 Views
+1, well said *NM* Lord Haart - 08/12/2010 11:19:29 AM 560 Views
Agrees *NM* Onarishma - 09/12/2010 03:27:53 PM 1066 Views
Yes, the OP totally whiffed here. Nyn couldn't remember.. The Angry Druid - 11/12/2010 01:50:11 AM 1314 Views
On the whole, the test is innappropriate IMO DomA - 07/12/2010 09:40:08 PM 1588 Views
I agree with this entirely *NM* LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 10:07:52 PM 555 Views
very well said *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2010 10:23:06 PM 498 Views
It's kind of a chicken and egg thing BlackAdder - 07/12/2010 11:13:19 PM 1233 Views
Re: It's kind of a chicken and egg thing DomA - 08/12/2010 12:37:20 AM 1518 Views
nice post Sidious - 08/12/2010 09:20:02 AM 1348 Views
Isn't it implied guttering flame - 08/12/2010 02:16:58 PM 1119 Views
no they were students together darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 05:33:17 PM 1074 Views
No, Lanfear was older than Lews guttering flame - 08/12/2010 07:21:45 PM 1295 Views
Where on earth did you get that from? darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 08:41:16 PM 1218 Views
Re: Where on earth did you get that from? DomA - 09/12/2010 10:27:20 AM 1240 Views
Re: Where on earth did you get that from? Sidious - 09/12/2010 03:56:32 PM 1321 Views
I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time darius_sedai - 09/12/2010 04:34:23 PM 1250 Views
Re: I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time moratcorlm - 09/12/2010 05:43:40 PM 1241 Views
I think skill with Saidar is easy enough to judge as it's a simple matter to see the skill darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 05:37:27 PM 1144 Views
I think the greens should have been on Nynaeve's side as well LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 06:18:16 PM 1271 Views
Problem is they are Aes Sedai and thus more likley to be political rather than rational! *NM* darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 08:52:00 PM 861 Views
too f'n true *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 12:17:58 AM 564 Views
Re: nice post DomA - 09/12/2010 01:23:50 PM 1334 Views
On the matter of strength guttering flame - 09/12/2010 08:51:36 PM 1175 Views
Re: On the matter of strength Timthetrolloc - 10/12/2010 10:38:42 AM 1161 Views
Strength was "prized" in the AoL ... but lack of strength was not a negative darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 01:41:08 AM 1131 Views
The test is stupid and it was about time someone pointed it out Zeratul - 07/12/2010 10:29:38 PM 1162 Views
Channeling under duress IS necessary for ALL Aes Sedai Urbannen - 05/01/2011 12:04:53 AM 1302 Views
Well BlackAdder - 07/12/2010 11:03:38 PM 1221 Views
Yes. How dare she not conform with every other fucking mindless stupid WT Aes Sedai *NM* Variant - 07/12/2010 11:36:52 PM 699 Views
Status is not an end in itself. *NM* Chas - 07/12/2010 11:52:37 PM 573 Views
They're not really stupid... DomA - 08/12/2010 01:00:20 AM 1260 Views
Not saying they are. It's just that most AS that we've come across Chas - 08/12/2010 02:20:05 AM 943 Views
They're constantly outsmarted by a teenage girl that has spent most of her life in a damn farm. Variant - 08/12/2010 10:32:50 AM 1225 Views
yeah because that's so realistic Sidious - 08/12/2010 12:17:29 PM 1168 Views
Egwene had everything handed to her on a silver platter. Variant - 08/12/2010 11:50:17 PM 1129 Views
Bah... DomA - 09/12/2010 10:56:24 AM 1282 Views
Nope, the Sitters were always stupid Zeratul - 09/12/2010 12:37:05 PM 1220 Views
I did not say all Aes Sedai are stupid, I said all WT Aes Sedai are stupid. Variant - 10/12/2010 09:19:52 AM 1237 Views
cause being rural automatically makes you dumb?..... *NM* Onarishma - 09/12/2010 05:34:11 PM 642 Views
It makes you uneducated moratcorlm - 09/12/2010 05:46:49 PM 1135 Views
You are not only wrong in your call, Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2010 04:39:44 AM 1479 Views
Re: You are not only wrong in your call, Sidious - 08/12/2010 09:13:37 AM 1462 Views
if that is the purpose of the test LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 01:34:45 PM 1167 Views
minor disagreement darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 05:27:51 PM 1242 Views
Yes, but you can be not-panicked and not calm of body LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 06:38:56 PM 1070 Views
not really the same thing as what the AS are getting at though darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 09:02:05 PM 1737 Views
that's retarded, imo LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 12:21:27 AM 1204 Views
About Elaida... Zeratul - 09/12/2010 12:29:21 PM 1243 Views
...no wonder the Aes Sedai are floundering LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 01:43:42 PM 995 Views
Oh it's totally stupid! darius_sedai - 09/12/2010 04:37:14 PM 1226 Views
No I know why she took the job. I just don't understand why she got it LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 04:52:34 PM 1162 Views
I think Elaida just smarmed up at the right time, Morgase was very young then darius_sedai - 09/12/2010 05:52:29 PM 1263 Views
hmm. curse smarming, then *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 07:47:26 PM 505 Views
As I recall... Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2010 05:18:25 AM 1195 Views
Oh. Well, I'm sorry then. Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2010 06:48:50 PM 1222 Views
I think it has already been established that the purpose of the test is to ensure that Chas - 08/12/2010 09:59:18 PM 969 Views
Yeah, but how does that work? Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2010 10:24:35 PM 1104 Views
Somewhere in the sub-conscious they know what they're doing is important to them. Chas - 09/12/2010 12:20:47 AM 1232 Views
Even so, it wouldn't work. Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2010 03:32:55 AM 1154 Views
I think if this thread has established anything it's that the test is severely flawed. *NM* Chas - 09/12/2010 09:24:48 PM 556 Views
Another headless chicken example. Chas - 09/12/2010 12:30:02 AM 1133 Views
the headless chicken is just such a lovely metaphor for panic *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM 508 Views
Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then. Sidious - 09/12/2010 12:07:15 PM 1213 Views
Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then. Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2010 05:32:27 AM 1296 Views
The main difference guttering flame - 10/12/2010 05:50:43 AM 1154 Views
I'm not sure I agree. Skeeve the Great - 08/12/2010 12:17:12 PM 1215 Views
You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right" Cannoli - 09/12/2010 02:59:50 AM 1313 Views
I hate it when I love you just a little *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 04:46:57 AM 542 Views
Re: You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right" Sidious - 09/12/2010 09:26:21 AM 1185 Views
That's not the dilema Cannoli - 09/12/2010 05:23:19 PM 1380 Views
One of those few times where I completely agree with Cannoli. Give over Sidious. You're wrong. fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 09:55:20 PM 1162 Views
Bah! As if an opinion on the test's validity can be wrong *NM* Sidious - 10/12/2010 04:39:14 AM 1310 Views
That's not what it's really about guttering flame - 10/12/2010 05:44:12 AM 1129 Views
The paralells are not obvious to me... Cannoli - 15/12/2010 11:42:51 AM 1209 Views
More like guttering flame - 15/12/2010 01:26:40 PM 1116 Views
This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 03:46:31 AM 1145 Views
Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. Sidious - 09/12/2010 09:40:09 AM 1227 Views
Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 02:04:02 PM 1537 Views
Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. DomA - 09/12/2010 11:26:40 AM 1235 Views
Agreed... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 01:54:09 PM 1186 Views
One of those few times where I completely agree with fionwe1987. Give over Sidious. You're wrong. Cannoli - 10/12/2010 03:53:25 PM 1228 Views
no, she did not disagree. slight difference LadyLorraine - 10/12/2010 05:53:54 PM 1100 Views
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