Like other posters you are distracted by the illusions of the test and allow them to defeat you. You need to channel 100 weaves while they throw everything from dying babies to your tortured spouse at you. Where's the moral dilemma? Its not real! Weave your stuff and gain the shawl and then go out into the real world and be moral. Its not about status or rank or morality. Its about being intelligent enough to not allow a ter'angreal to stop you from weaving a hundred weaves just because it pulls at your heartstrings. And that is why Nynaeve is a failure... Because she's too dense to dissociate herself from a fake test and a real life test of her character. And that's the benefit of the test, its cuts out all the idiots who can't just walk to a star without cracking up because there's a weave of Fire and Air showing their dead lover.
I'm sure that's what they tell each other it's about, but both this test and the test for Accepted have a common theme, two main components that define them: Shame and Secrecy.
The real-world parallels are obvious.
Nynaeve's stupidity and the test for Aes Sedai
- 07/12/2010 08:27:05 PM
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Way to totally misunderstand the chapter
- 07/12/2010 09:39:08 PM
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I second this
- 07/12/2010 10:10:24 PM
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your bold is stuck. *NM*
- 07/12/2010 10:21:22 PM
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On the whole, the test is innappropriate IMO
- 07/12/2010 09:40:08 PM
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nice post
- 08/12/2010 09:20:02 AM
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Isn't it implied
- 08/12/2010 02:16:58 PM
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no they were students together
- 08/12/2010 05:33:17 PM
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No, Lanfear was older than Lews
- 08/12/2010 07:21:45 PM
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Where on earth did you get that from?
- 08/12/2010 08:41:16 PM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
- 09/12/2010 10:27:20 AM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
- 09/12/2010 03:56:32 PM
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I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
- 09/12/2010 04:34:23 PM
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Re: I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
- 09/12/2010 05:43:40 PM
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I think skill with Saidar is easy enough to judge as it's a simple matter to see the skill
- 08/12/2010 05:37:27 PM
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I think the greens should have been on Nynaeve's side as well
- 08/12/2010 06:18:16 PM
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Problem is they are Aes Sedai and thus more likley to be political rather than rational! *NM*
- 08/12/2010 08:52:00 PM
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Re: nice post
- 09/12/2010 01:23:50 PM
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On the matter of strength
- 09/12/2010 08:51:36 PM
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Strength was "prized" in the AoL ... but lack of strength was not a negative
- 12/12/2010 01:41:08 AM
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Yes. How dare she not conform with every other fucking mindless stupid WT Aes Sedai *NM*
- 07/12/2010 11:36:52 PM
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Status is not an end in itself. *NM*
- 07/12/2010 11:52:37 PM
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They're not really stupid...
- 08/12/2010 01:00:20 AM
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Not saying they are. It's just that most AS that we've come across
- 08/12/2010 02:20:05 AM
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They're constantly outsmarted by a teenage girl that has spent most of her life in a damn farm.
- 08/12/2010 10:32:50 AM
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Bah...
- 09/12/2010 10:56:24 AM
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I did not say all Aes Sedai are stupid, I said all WT Aes Sedai are stupid.
- 10/12/2010 09:19:52 AM
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You are not only wrong in your call,
- 08/12/2010 04:39:44 AM
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Re: You are not only wrong in your call,
- 08/12/2010 09:13:37 AM
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if that is the purpose of the test
- 08/12/2010 01:34:45 PM
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minor disagreement
- 08/12/2010 05:27:51 PM
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Yes, but you can be not-panicked and not calm of body
- 08/12/2010 06:38:56 PM
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not really the same thing as what the AS are getting at though
- 08/12/2010 09:02:05 PM
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that's retarded, imo
- 09/12/2010 12:21:27 AM
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Oh it's totally stupid!
- 09/12/2010 04:37:14 PM
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No I know why she took the job. I just don't understand why she got it
- 09/12/2010 04:52:34 PM
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I think Elaida just smarmed up at the right time, Morgase was very young then
- 09/12/2010 05:52:29 PM
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Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
- 08/12/2010 06:48:50 PM
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I think it has already been established that the purpose of the test is to ensure that
- 08/12/2010 09:59:18 PM
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Yeah, but how does that work?
- 08/12/2010 10:24:35 PM
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Somewhere in the sub-conscious they know what they're doing is important to them.
- 09/12/2010 12:20:47 AM
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Even so, it wouldn't work.
- 09/12/2010 03:32:55 AM
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I think if this thread has established anything it's that the test is severely flawed. *NM*
- 09/12/2010 09:24:48 PM
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Another headless chicken example.
- 09/12/2010 12:30:02 AM
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the headless chicken is just such a lovely metaphor for panic
*NM*
- 09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM
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*NM*
- 09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM
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Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
- 09/12/2010 12:07:15 PM
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You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
- 09/12/2010 02:59:50 AM
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Re: You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
- 09/12/2010 09:26:21 AM
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That's not the dilema
- 09/12/2010 05:23:19 PM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with Cannoli. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
- 09/12/2010 09:55:20 PM
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That's not what it's really about
- 10/12/2010 05:44:12 AM
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This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 03:46:31 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 09:40:09 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 02:04:02 PM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 11:26:40 AM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with fionwe1987. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
- 10/12/2010 03:53:25 PM
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*NM*