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Ahh the old debate... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 17/09/2009 12:42:36 AM
I still think its weird that you take Asmodean's word over RJ's. He stated clearly that exactly the same number of men and women will be strong enough to be Aes Sedai if you consider the dexterity advantage women have. Which is as clear a statement as possible that the average male and the average female have the same capability.

What you're ignoring is that the average Aes Sedai is considerably weaker than the average woman. This is because the Tower's averages are extremely skewed due to their stupid policies.

Once they start recruiting from all over the world, not only will they have more channelers, their averages will improve too.

The best comparison between men and women comes from the Damane vs. Asha'man fighting in tPoD. Damane cannot link either, and are hardly the most skilled channelers in the world, yet they give the Asha'man a good run for their money. What does that say about male female parity?
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The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power Sidious - 12/09/2009 09:27:20 PM 1915 Views
Some thoughts about Semmy Lordling - 12/09/2009 09:59:50 PM 1086 Views
Re: Some thoughts about Semmy Sidious - 13/09/2009 08:33:28 AM 1162 Views
Of course... Digital_Eon - 13/09/2009 08:36:39 AM 956 Views
I've been thinking the same for years Dragonsworn - 12/09/2009 11:25:02 PM 1070 Views
The Big White Book says... Yvves - 12/09/2009 11:46:43 PM 1142 Views
Not Aginor Sidious - 13/09/2009 08:36:37 AM 1141 Views
Re: Not Aginor NaClH2O - 13/09/2009 03:16:13 PM 1049 Views
Re: Not Aginor Sidious - 13/09/2009 05:47:14 PM 1093 Views
Fact is, the bwb is untrustworthy Shannow - 13/09/2009 05:54:28 PM 1007 Views
We must either use all the quotes from the BWB or none of them Sidious - 13/09/2009 06:07:46 PM 1043 Views
Or... Shannow - 13/09/2009 08:41:23 PM 986 Views
Re: Or... Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:46:52 AM 953 Views
But, RJ himself said that the BWB was written from the standpoint of a scholar RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:42:59 PM 1035 Views
Re: Not Aginor NaClH2O - 13/09/2009 08:17:28 PM 955 Views
It all depends on how you define "powerful" Lanfear - 14/09/2009 02:30:31 AM 1065 Views
I agree 101%. *NM* Yvves - 14/09/2009 03:49:51 AM 530 Views
I think power is much more than raw strength Sidious - 14/09/2009 05:00:10 AM 971 Views
I agree for the most part, but disagree on one thing. Lanfear - 14/09/2009 07:52:10 PM 1137 Views
Re: The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power Bulgakov - 12/09/2009 11:48:03 PM 997 Views
the other reason NaClH2O - 13/09/2009 03:24:24 PM 918 Views
So is graendal similar to lanfear then? Shannow - 13/09/2009 05:41:42 PM 927 Views
Graendal could fight Lanfear and win Sidious - 13/09/2009 06:01:57 PM 1504 Views
Graendal herself says... Shannow - 13/09/2009 09:08:46 PM 956 Views
Re: Graendal herself says... Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:48:37 AM 1012 Views
Doesn't Graendal have an Angreal now? Rurouni_Kenshin - 17/09/2009 03:29:10 AM 1028 Views
Re: Graendal herself says... Lanfear - 15/09/2009 05:36:53 PM 886 Views
Lanfear was more powerful than Graendal, but Cyndane has less power beetnemesis - 13/09/2009 10:19:35 PM 947 Views
Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? Watcher - 13/09/2009 06:05:11 PM 1112 Views
I agree with this Sidious - 13/09/2009 06:15:24 PM 1102 Views
Compulsion=any other deadly weave. Doesn't really change matters beetnemesis - 13/09/2009 10:23:40 PM 985 Views
Excellent point *NM* Shannow - 13/09/2009 10:35:08 PM 542 Views
But it did give her an edge, and against two forsaken. *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:12:09 PM 507 Views
Hm? When? *NM* beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:04:10 PM 448 Views
tPoD, when she compelled Cyndane and Moghedien. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 10:19:23 PM 486 Views
Not at all Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 1032 Views
Using Compulsion on someone doesn't seem mechanically different beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:03:41 PM 880 Views
I'm not so sure about that Sidious - 14/09/2009 09:36:45 PM 959 Views
Totally agree Shannow - 14/09/2009 10:26:07 PM 816 Views
I don't agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:33:04 PM 1093 Views
Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:34:24 PM 914 Views
But Graendal confronted her... twice! *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 07:48:29 PM 458 Views
Apparently only the third time counts *NM* Sidious - 13/09/2009 08:00:37 PM 504 Views
But the third time's supposed to be lucky. So that won't count either. *NM* fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:26:18 PM 521 Views
Really? Shannow - 13/09/2009 08:36:33 PM 956 Views
No falsely... fionwe1987 - 13/09/2009 11:25:40 PM 1169 Views
That's pretty much my opinion in a nutshell Sidious - 14/09/2009 04:56:15 AM 1131 Views
And, of course, the male and female OP strength ranks might not even correlate that much RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:41:58 PM 890 Views
They correlate on some critical points Sidious - 14/09/2009 06:57:43 PM 1094 Views
That's not exactly what I'm referring to. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:36:29 PM 842 Views
But then we are discussing the same thing Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:59:04 PM 986 Views
I think, outside of semantics, our main disagreement doesn't lie amid the higher tiers RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 03:53:09 PM 852 Views
Probably Sidious - 16/09/2009 06:31:27 PM 999 Views
Re: Probably RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 07:19:03 PM 969 Views
Re: Probably Sidious - 16/09/2009 08:59:31 PM 957 Views
Re: Probably RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/09/2009 07:03:09 PM 1291 Views
Ahh the old debate... fionwe1987 - 17/09/2009 12:42:36 AM 929 Views
Re: Ahh the old debate... Sidious - 17/09/2009 05:26:52 AM 898 Views
I only disagree on one point, I think they are all rather equal in potential, incl. Ishamael RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 04:28:12 PM 993 Views
I do think Ishamel is special Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:04:03 PM 1062 Views
He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/09/2009 11:36:42 PM 1019 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 08:36:20 AM 979 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 03:48:34 PM 967 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 04:39:39 PM 951 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 04:53:00 PM 953 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:47:45 PM 991 Views
The more interesting question is... AgentOrange - 14/09/2009 06:34:11 PM 881 Views
Hmmm Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:04:34 PM 974 Views
I think we'll see Graendal vs. Aran'gar. fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 07:31:16 PM 1010 Views
Ah yes, that makes sense, and would be great! *NM* Sidious - 14/09/2009 07:40:29 PM 821 Views
Yeah. Though I think its no competition. Graendal has got to be better than a walking tree! fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 07:50:09 PM 882 Views
They do imply that Graendal is a lot more dangerous than she looks beetnemesis - 14/09/2009 09:08:43 PM 907 Views
I've never underestimated Graendal Sidious - 14/09/2009 09:42:49 PM 961 Views
Yeah... her frivolity was always a red flag for me too. fionwe1987 - 14/09/2009 10:18:40 PM 1003 Views
To me, she is the most lethal. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/09/2009 05:18:10 PM 747 Views
Yup... fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 06:39:20 PM 802 Views
I still like Lanfear more Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:51:03 PM 888 Views
Bah! She's an idiot! fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 07:06:06 PM 898 Views
only in love *NM* Sidious - 15/09/2009 07:23:29 PM 854 Views
Graendal did not beat me and Moghedien Lanfear - 15/09/2009 05:59:39 PM 993 Views
Agreed Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:36:48 PM 880 Views
Ummm... how do we know? fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 1018 Views
Re: Ummm... how do we know? Sidious - 15/09/2009 06:56:21 PM 927 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 07:07:45 PM 1121 Views
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