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Where are you getting this happens over thousands of years? darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/04/2012 01:47:42 PM
This happens over the course of a few generations ... And short ones at that ... Maybe a couple of hundred years from start to finish. And within a much shorter span we see the Aiel are no longer even the same people, Aviendha is repulsed by her own Granddaughter and doesn't even see her as Aiel.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Aviendha, the columns, and the Seanchan DoraSedai - 03/04/2012 04:29:31 PM 2107 Views
The entire point, I believe, is to give Avienda the opportunity to change that future LadyLorraine - 03/04/2012 05:13:48 PM 1476 Views
As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. Fanatic-Templar - 03/04/2012 07:30:52 PM 1125 Views
Depends on how one defines Aiel darius_sedai - 04/04/2012 04:11:11 AM 1079 Views
There are more than there were before. Fanatic-Templar - 04/04/2012 07:03:27 AM 1080 Views
But when the prophesy was made there many followers darius_sedai - 04/04/2012 10:10:54 AM 1008 Views
The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 04/04/2012 06:28:47 PM 1094 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. DomA - 05/04/2012 01:41:23 AM 1329 Views
Well that more than covers it *NM* darius_sedai - 05/04/2012 04:43:53 AM 524 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 05/04/2012 07:39:04 AM 1154 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. DomA - 05/04/2012 02:14:37 PM 1394 Views
For the record I agree that the visions are not true either darius_sedai - 05/04/2012 02:25:47 PM 1064 Views
Re: For the record I agree that the visions are not true either DomA - 05/04/2012 11:36:53 PM 1061 Views
Yes, I was thinking of the Aiel's suicidal traditions as well. Fanatic-Templar - 05/04/2012 06:24:56 PM 995 Views
Re: Yes, I was thinking of the Aiel's suicidal traditions as well. DomA - 06/04/2012 12:20:31 AM 1157 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. DoraSedai - 06/04/2012 10:51:00 PM 1028 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. DoraSedai - 06/04/2012 10:38:24 PM 1313 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 07/04/2012 06:27:27 AM 1011 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. darius_sedai - 07/04/2012 07:23:03 PM 941 Views
So what you're saying... Fanatic-Templar - 07/04/2012 10:07:59 PM 884 Views
What I am saying is that it's not a "pure bloodline" that makes one an Aiel darius_sedai - 08/04/2012 12:16:10 AM 991 Views
I never said it was. Fanatic-Templar - 08/04/2012 12:43:26 AM 1084 Views
Actually you did In your above post you speak of the Tinkers as not Aiel because they have been darius_sedai - 08/04/2012 06:09:01 AM 1022 Views
No... Fanatic-Templar - 08/04/2012 07:12:22 AM 1117 Views
You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc darius_sedai - 08/04/2012 05:16:54 PM 1108 Views
Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc Fanatic-Templar - 08/04/2012 06:43:27 PM 1116 Views
Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc rosco12 - 08/04/2012 07:52:10 PM 894 Views
Thanks for that. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2012 02:38:25 AM 808 Views
Red hair is double recessive ... Doesn't take much to eliminate it from the gene pool. There could darius_sedai - 08/04/2012 11:22:36 PM 1022 Views
You are consistently making the same mistake. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2012 02:45:46 AM 899 Views
They are the same thing. The remnant of a remnant are Aiel darius_sedai - 10/04/2012 05:04:55 AM 1051 Views
No. They are not. Fanatic-Templar - 10/04/2012 05:42:29 AM 927 Views
Never said the remnant of the remnant was the whole of the Aiel darius_sedai - 10/04/2012 05:45:47 PM 932 Views
You said that redefining the Aiel would allow Aviendha's vision to be possible. Fanatic-Templar - 10/04/2012 06:53:51 PM 1116 Views
No , I said there were many ways to interpret the statement based on how one defines Aiel darius_sedai - 10/04/2012 07:36:11 PM 891 Views
All of which is entirely irrelevant. Fanatic-Templar - 10/04/2012 07:38:29 PM 907 Views
Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant darius_sedai - 10/04/2012 07:47:04 PM 960 Views
Re: Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant Fanatic-Templar - 11/04/2012 01:40:36 AM 977 Views
That is what I just said darius_sedai - 14/04/2012 01:41:56 AM 931 Views
What is important about that? Fanatic-Templar - 14/04/2012 04:35:55 AM 908 Views
The importance is that the prophesy says that Rand darius_sedai - 14/04/2012 06:06:31 PM 1069 Views
So what you're saying is... Fanatic-Templar - 14/04/2012 09:45:36 PM 967 Views
That's exactly it darius_sedai - 14/04/2012 11:21:25 PM 1027 Views
Good. Fanatic-Templar - 15/04/2012 02:01:14 AM 1050 Views
He sets it in motion, thus his actions lead to it darius_sedai - 15/04/2012 02:55:13 PM 893 Views
Yes, but in that case, he is responsible for everything, ever. Fanatic-Templar - 15/04/2012 05:29:31 PM 991 Views
We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing darius_sedai - 15/04/2012 07:21:29 PM 937 Views
Re: We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing DomA - 17/04/2012 04:18:32 AM 1134 Views
Depends on how you look at the Prophesy darius_sedai - 18/04/2012 01:45:23 PM 864 Views
Of course, but the point of my example was... Fanatic-Templar - 17/04/2012 06:08:09 PM 907 Views
Where are you getting this happens over thousands of years? darius_sedai - 18/04/2012 01:47:42 PM 864 Views
Because that was the important part of that post. Fanatic-Templar - 18/04/2012 05:28:10 PM 1018 Views
Don't know when this became about winning darius_sedai - 19/04/2012 02:08:16 AM 808 Views
Re: I never said it was. DoraSedai - 18/04/2012 12:37:23 AM 1108 Views
Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. DomA - 04/04/2012 07:16:13 AM 1129 Views
Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. DoraSedai - 06/04/2012 10:33:00 PM 1028 Views
Thank you for that analysis. *NM* JasonD - 17/04/2012 12:36:08 AM 502 Views
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