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Possible, but I find it unlikely darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 27/09/2012 06:16:56 AM
I tend to think most Author quotes regarding Strength speak to potential. Seems a little strange for RJ to have created a rolling list based on Nynaeve's current strength ... He'd have to constantly update it and while it's clear he had a pretty good sense of where his major characters current strength was in any given scene, he tended to build situations to demonstrate a strength increase. For instance Elayne spending weeks on a Seafolk ship weaving huge flows increased her strength. She openly notes it and is surprised when she is now strong enough to lift a woman. Another clear indicator that Elayne was significantly weaker than Egwene at this stage ... In the same time frame Egwene is already stronger than Moiraine. Elayne was probably no stronger than a middling Sister in TSR. A few months later in the Rebel camp we see another significant jump in Elayne, who is now clearly Stronger than any Sister in the camp.

Character POVs are obviously up for debate ... Alivia may have been "considerably" stronger than Nynaeve in the moment (and from a much weaker persons POV), but at full strength the differential may be significantly smaller. I tend to think we get a mix of current and potential comments from characters, but generally they point out when they are speaking of potential... As Egwene noted when she commented that Sharina was stronger than Nynaeve or Elayne when she talks about matching Egwene. It's possible Tamela and Viendre are not as strong as Elayne in potential, but were only stronger at that moment. I tend to think they may not have more potential, because Elayne didn't call it out, but it could as easily go the other way, but women that close to Someryn would discount the comment on her never having met someone even close to her in strength.
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Re: Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways - 23/09/2012 11:36:54 PM 1072 Views
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Well.. - 25/09/2012 11:15:21 PM 956 Views
Thanks for the quote, but reading that, it kind of implies the opposite, to me... - 25/09/2012 11:35:53 PM 1270 Views
Hmmm.... - 26/09/2012 12:00:33 AM 1009 Views
Hehe, that old argument again. - 26/09/2012 12:09:25 AM 900 Views
Yes. - 26/09/2012 12:58:03 AM 895 Views
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Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 26/09/2012 08:53:02 AM 952 Views
Well... - 26/09/2012 09:09:38 AM 922 Views
Re: Well... - 26/09/2012 10:17:03 AM 1056 Views
Nice speculation. I like that type of calculation. - 26/09/2012 10:59:43 AM 988 Views
Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 03:12:06 AM 946 Views
Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 08:17:07 AM 906 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM 1003 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 07:23:11 AM 997 Views
Actually...... - 26/09/2012 02:30:00 AM 1063 Views
Agree with this.. - 26/09/2012 06:12:34 AM 876 Views
Not sure that's completely true.. - 26/09/2012 06:42:51 AM 925 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. - 26/09/2012 03:02:41 PM 1083 Views
This is what I've been saying for years! - 26/09/2012 05:48:01 PM 798 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. - 27/09/2012 03:17:00 AM 971 Views
Probably something like this - 26/09/2012 08:36:40 AM 990 Views
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Re: Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... - 26/09/2012 10:01:08 AM 885 Views
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One thing about that... - 27/09/2012 02:58:56 AM 1025 Views
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Re: I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice - 26/09/2012 05:30:36 PM 1071 Views
That is the question I was getting at - 26/09/2012 06:00:03 PM 1029 Views
Re: That is the question I was getting at - 26/09/2012 07:01:34 PM 1058 Views

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