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I didn't say that Sidious Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM
Of course at least some of them are hold by the Empress or Tuon, because as the rulers of Seanchan they naturally have the privileges to get these damane. They also have e.g. the best fighters and the most powerful ter'angreal. Since a super strong damane would be very helpful for Tuon on her war, it furthermore simply makes sense that Sera is one of these super strong. Therefore any list ignoring Sera is most likely wrong, IMO.

But as said, maybe BS will clarify it.


Alivia is the strongest damane we know. There may or may not be a damane or some damane who equal or exceed her. We might never know.

Tuon said that Sera was the strongest of her damane - out of six in attendance. To make the leap that Sera is high Forsaken strength is illogical IMO. Egwene was special enough that they wanted to present her to the Empress for her abilities. It doesn't mean she's Lanfear.
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 1972 Views
Except... Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 994 Views
There's no evidence for that Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 940 Views
I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list kcf - 19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM 951 Views
It's common sense Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 872 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 1001 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 866 Views
I didn't say that Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 920 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 896 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! Shannow - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 1027 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 1032 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... Shannow - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 1108 Views
But I'm not Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 988 Views
Let me ask you this... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 1037 Views
Very good point *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 450 Views
One possibility Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 965 Views
All assumption Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 929 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 857 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 996 Views
Why? Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1517 Views
Re: Why? Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 895 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 884 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 891 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 1003 Views
Probably not in this case Sidious - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 872 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. Logain - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 886 Views
Yeah... entirely Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 851 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Logain - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 883 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 965 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 925 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 883 Views
my comments w/ edit kcf - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 946 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 1027 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 820 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* callandor1000 - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 600 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 467 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 972 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 975 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 835 Views
Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM 493 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* Basara - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 507 Views
Too many levels Rurouni_Kenshin - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 962 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 847 Views
21 levels is largely a myth kcf - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 889 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth DomA - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 980 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 432 Views
That's good to know. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 833 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 1000 Views
I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways Logain - 20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM 1012 Views
Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM 1103 Views
Re: Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve Logain - 28/11/2009 10:05:15 PM 1108 Views
Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 881 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. taura-tierno - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1325 Views
Agree with nearly all Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 829 Views
more hopefully to come kcf - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 812 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. Shannow - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 1063 Views
I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM 403 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 902 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 820 Views
It's possible Logain - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 870 Views
Re: It's possible darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 06:18:56 PM 941 Views
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