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I didn't say that Sidious Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM
Of course at least some of them are hold by the Empress or Tuon, because as the rulers of Seanchan they naturally have the privileges to get these damane. They also have e.g. the best fighters and the most powerful ter'angreal. Since a super strong damane would be very helpful for Tuon on her war, it furthermore simply makes sense that Sera is one of these super strong. Therefore any list ignoring Sera is most likely wrong, IMO.

But as said, maybe BS will clarify it.


Alivia is the strongest damane we know. There may or may not be a damane or some damane who equal or exceed her. We might never know.

Tuon said that Sera was the strongest of her damane - out of six in attendance. To make the leap that Sera is high Forsaken strength is illogical IMO. Egwene was special enough that they wanted to present her to the Empress for her abilities. It doesn't mean she's Lanfear.
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 2060 Views
Except... Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 1062 Views
There's no evidence for that Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 1052 Views
I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list kcf - 19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM 1064 Views
It's common sense Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 965 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 1098 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 946 Views
I didn't say that Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 1014 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 983 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! Shannow - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 1135 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 1124 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... Shannow - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 1208 Views
But I'm not Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 1089 Views
Let me ask you this... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 1154 Views
Very good point *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 505 Views
One possibility Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 1051 Views
All assumption Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 1044 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 939 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 1074 Views
Why? Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1610 Views
Re: Why? Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 979 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 956 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 982 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 1096 Views
Probably not in this case Sidious - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 960 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. Logain - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 982 Views
Yeah... entirely Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 947 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Logain - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 980 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 1051 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 1000 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 985 Views
my comments w/ edit kcf - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 1073 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 1141 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 901 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* callandor1000 - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 655 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 510 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 1073 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 1078 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 922 Views
Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM 541 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* Basara - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 567 Views
Too many levels Rurouni_Kenshin - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 1045 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 922 Views
21 levels is largely a myth kcf - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 977 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth DomA - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 1077 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 476 Views
That's good to know. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 907 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 1093 Views
I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways Logain - 20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM 1098 Views
Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM 1207 Views
Re: Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve Logain - 28/11/2009 10:05:15 PM 1244 Views
Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 967 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. taura-tierno - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1410 Views
Agree with nearly all Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 908 Views
more hopefully to come kcf - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 884 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. Shannow - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 1142 Views
I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM 448 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 1001 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 907 Views
It's possible Logain - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 950 Views
Re: It's possible darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 06:18:56 PM 1021 Views
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