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I agree with your second half beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM
The point where she (once freed) was balefired by Rand was almost incidental to her falling... at that point in time, her real power was already broken, she doubted herself (knowing her failure, as we saw when Shaidar Haran visited her), and causing her to act from weakness rather than strength.



Totally true. That scene was all about Rand- Semi was just the catalyst.


Really, as I've said a few times in my replies in this thread, is that Semi's humiliation lacked satisfaction. We've only seen her a few times, and most of our dread of her is, yes, mystique. To see her humbled in such a fashion, and from the tone of the rest of the book, we can only take from tGS that the Forsaken are pretty lame.

And as true as that may be, and as poignant a commentary as that may be on the nature of evil, no one ever got excited by a lame antagonist (except for whenever Professor X turns evil).











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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3269 Views
The two of you are pathetic - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1755 Views
Your problem is... - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1684 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 767 Views
No. - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1465 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1372 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 645 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1476 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1429 Views
True to a degree - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1366 Views
There's a little more to it as well - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1326 Views
You know, I agree - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1440 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1261 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1241 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 709 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1257 Views
That's what I meant, actually - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1240 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1197 Views
Re: You know, I agree - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1354 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1441 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1289 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1327 Views
Ditto *NM* - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 623 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1347 Views
And also - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1303 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1184 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1329 Views
personally, I loved the scene - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1493 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 690 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1404 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 733 Views
That was barely a response... - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1288 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1286 Views
Re: That was barely a response... - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1350 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1287 Views
On the other hand - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1273 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1249 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1325 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1270 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1311 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1230 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1335 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1172 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1206 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1313 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1213 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1192 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1164 Views
... - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1286 Views
If they're good at killing people - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 1069 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1343 Views
exactly *NM* - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 685 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1306 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1377 Views
I'd like to see that too . - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1227 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 677 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1409 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 786 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1509 Views
I agree with your second half - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1226 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1233 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1239 Views
She is dead to me! - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 1152 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1175 Views
Book 14 you think - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1220 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1323 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1349 Views
Don't avoid the question... - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1277 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1286 Views
Hehe... - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1303 Views
Re: Hehe... - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1305 Views
- 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1174 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1235 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1209 Views
Re: - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1260 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1225 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1308 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1559 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 1157 Views
because thats what sadists are! - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1570 Views
How many people - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1271 Views
At least two. - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 1079 Views
Re: At least two. - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1405 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1212 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1447 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1268 Views

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