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Great to see you again! vandevere Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 05:01:01 AM
Over all, I enjoyed it... really. :)

The only issues I had were small...

1. I disliked how quickly Semirhage was killed. RJ spent how many books building her up into practically a nightmare... then she cries because she gets humiliated and then dies in a puff of glittering dust? I was not pleased. I expected an epic duel between Semirhage and Nynaeve... evil Healer gone bad against cranky Healer gone good.

And we got none of that... she latched the collar on Rand, had Elza kill some nobody Aes Sedai, and then tried to make Rand kill Min... and poof, she's gone.

2. Graendal... pretty much the same problem I had with the treatment of Semirhage.

Honestly, with these two, it almost felt like RJ/BS realized they couldn't wrap up the book with that many Forsaken running around, so they make Moridin tell Rand about Balefire permanently removing Forsaken from the playing field... and suddenly, wham, bam, thank you Rand, a few more Forsaken are gone.

3. Mesaana. I liked that Verin revealed that she was in the Tower... but we never got any closure as to who she was. We never got to have the big reveal... and unless she appears as a damane in the next part of the last book, we never will.


Just be patient. She'll turn up eventually...

Some parts that I really liked, and might take over as my favorite scene, were:

1. A visit with Verin. That scene was perfect... the shock on Egwene, the fact that you were still guessing until Verin connected all the dots for you, and the way she died. It brought to mind Socrates taking his own poison knowing it was for the greater good. Verin gets mad props from Phelix.


In a sense, Verin really was the Purple Ajah. She was a truly undercover BA working to study the DO, and learn his weaknesses, and also to bring the BA down. It turns out she was one of the most truly brave characters in the series, in her birdlike way; a perfect counterpart to Sheriam, who seems to have gone to the BA for Power and perks, and turned out to be a total coward in the end...

2. Egwene's throw down with the Seanchan. In fact, I've been so impatient to finish the whole Egwene/White Tower Split story line, that all of her scenes made me smile, clap, and/or cheer.


Absolutely wonderful; especially how she united the two by making sure the rebels didn't have an edge over the Tower Aes Sedai. Choosing a Red for her Keeper was pure brilliance...

3. Faile and Masema... on the one hand, it was sad to see such an interesting character just disappear... but on the other, it made Faile just a bit more badass in my mind.


Sad, true, but it had to be done, perhaps. Masema was, as Faile said, a rabid dog that needed to be put down, and Faile was willing to do that particular bit of dirty work.

If the human brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't understand it.
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I finished tGS last night... and really had to come back to you all. Phelix - 09/12/2009 02:11:05 AM 1430 Views
You bring up some good points BlackAdder - 09/12/2009 03:20:37 AM 897 Views
What if Verin really WAS Black? Lord Haart - 09/12/2009 03:32:07 PM 715 Views
Pretty much agree with you. Great Lord of Chaos - 09/12/2009 03:21:08 AM 685 Views
Hey, long time no see. Glad you're back! *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2009 03:28:50 AM 370 Views
Good to see you too, F-T. *NM* Phelix - 17/12/2009 09:58:26 PM 248 Views
Silly Verin! She did not need to die. Datakim - 09/12/2009 03:53:23 AM 779 Views
Re: Silly Verin! She did not need to die. TheUltimateReality - 09/12/2009 06:11:02 AM 672 Views
And does she know that Stilling breaks the Oaths? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2009 06:16:54 AM 297 Views
She should. Some of the Aes Sedai who swore to Rand had been Stilled and then Restored by Flinn. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:18:10 PM 638 Views
Then, wouldn't the BA/Shadow just kill her off? I think it'd be kind of obvious what she did. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 09/12/2009 03:23:05 PM 451 Views
I think that's beyond the BA's capabilities. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:48:03 PM 521 Views
Doesn't mean they experimented with it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2009 08:48:23 PM 586 Views
Rebels had no reason to research a way to break the oaths. Verin did. Datakim - 10/12/2009 02:00:21 AM 631 Views
You're going at it upside-down. Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2009 02:33:41 AM 570 Views
Verin should have figured it out Datakim - 10/12/2009 03:03:14 AM 573 Views
Why? Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2009 04:15:45 AM 583 Views
I was just rereading that section yesterday.... Light in the Night - 10/12/2009 10:52:23 AM 751 Views
It all seems intuitively obvious to me! Datakim - 10/12/2009 07:58:46 PM 705 Views
Will you please look at your argument? Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2009 09:40:42 PM 643 Views
Re: It all seems intuitively obvious to me! Light in the Night - 11/12/2009 07:38:17 AM 640 Views
The damn Oath Rod! Datakim - 12/12/2009 01:32:47 AM 791 Views
Just having motivation is not enough redhand - 11/12/2009 03:52:40 PM 662 Views
Agreed, you also need a working brain. Where did Verin's go? Datakim - 12/12/2009 12:54:17 AM 485 Views
I don't think those would work rAndy aL - 09/12/2009 07:03:38 AM 638 Views
She should and could have found a better way. Datakim - 09/12/2009 07:41:28 AM 619 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:16:27 PM 508 Views
Re: She should and could have found a better way. rAndy aL - 10/12/2009 12:13:40 AM 589 Views
Re: She should and could have found a better way. Datakim - 10/12/2009 02:30:14 AM 562 Views
Re: Silly Verin! She did not need to die. Gerbeaud - 09/12/2009 08:44:31 PM 665 Views
There is also this small problem of Tower Law redhand - 10/12/2009 08:24:55 AM 480 Views
I always thought Masema was an irritating distraction and was glad he was killed quickly. Tom - 09/12/2009 03:53:44 AM 632 Views
Yes, Masema was a bore. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:13:40 PM 636 Views
Re: I always thought Masema was an irritating distraction and was glad he was killed quickly. @my - 09/12/2009 04:21:35 PM 778 Views
Agreed. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 09/12/2009 09:25:02 PM 341 Views
Sidious - 09/12/2009 04:44:10 AM 688 Views
Re: Gerbeaud - 09/12/2009 08:13:24 PM 660 Views
Hey Mark. Phelix - 17/12/2009 10:00:58 PM 592 Views
Great to see you again! vandevere - 09/12/2009 05:01:01 AM 806 Views
Yep, and Sheriam ended up losing a finger or two in the process. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:49:45 PM 596 Views
Why do you think we'll never see Mesaana closure? *NM* lord-of-shadow - 09/12/2009 06:07:08 AM 422 Views
Re: Why do you think we'll never see Mesaana closure? TheUltimateReality - 09/12/2009 06:13:22 AM 543 Views
It's great to see you around again! Seriana Sedai - 09/12/2009 07:06:45 AM 650 Views
:'( j-whitt987 - 09/12/2009 11:29:03 PM 596 Views
Good to see you too. Phelix - 17/12/2009 10:01:57 PM 574 Views
Re: Good to see you too. Seriana Sedai - 19/12/2009 06:12:11 AM 549 Views
Hee... gotta love zoos. Phelix - 19/12/2009 06:18:35 AM 520 Views
Mine added up to many vet bills this week. Seriana Sedai - 19/12/2009 07:22:40 AM 510 Views
Eeeep! Bills are not good! Phelix - 19/12/2009 07:24:36 AM 537 Views
Seriana Sedai - 20/12/2009 06:46:38 AM 579 Views
LMAO! Phelix - 20/12/2009 08:25:02 AM 419 Views
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