I don't understand how Be'lal can have Tear, Sammael Illian and Rahvin Andor - and Demandred some small country in the north. He was also a very prominent general of the Shadow - his army and conquest will be of a similar caliber.
But that doesn't men it's less important. And if Demandred previously managed to cause chaos in almost all countries in the west of the Westlands, it's understandable that he later (around the time of PoD or WH, probably) chose the nation which was still left, namely Murandy.
What chaos did he cause? If it's the dragonsworn it's minimal at best, and now totally routed anyway.
You can't tell me that Demandred has been nomadic since he was released and only recently attainted a country to rule. That would make him the only Forsaken to do so.
Whatever he's planned, I'm sure Demandred will release something that will shock and profoundly break Rand for a time. Murandy is more likely to cause laughter - Rand singlehandedly almost destroyed a borderland army himself. It is almost certainly going to center around the OP - whether he releases the Land of Madmen, or the Sharans, Rand is going to need Mat and all his skill to outwit Demandred and his tactics.
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This message last edited by Sidious on 15/12/2009 at 04:46:16 PM
The legend of Murandy's unimportance
- 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM
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But it's still a small country
- 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM
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Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller
- 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM
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Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller
- 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM
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The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands.
- 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM
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Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations
- 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM
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I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos.
- 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM
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As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM*
- 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM
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I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed.
- 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM
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But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series...
- 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM
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But that's not the Shadow's aim.
- 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM
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What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him?
- 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM
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I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca...
- 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM
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Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO...
- 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM
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Of course..
- 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM
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The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them
- 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM
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Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos.
- 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM
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Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos.
- 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM
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But this has been going on since at least aCoS
- 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM
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Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS
- 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM
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well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far
- 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM
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Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready?
- 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM
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Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready?
- 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM
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It is insignificant.
- 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM
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It's importance lies in it's strategic location.
- 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM
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I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there.
- 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM
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what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM*
- 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM
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Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall.
- 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM
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Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS!
- 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM
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A Murandian army is insignificant.
- 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM
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For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you...
- 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM
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- 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM
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He doesn't?
- 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM
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Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding...
- 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM
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Re: A Murandian army is insignificant.
- 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM
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Surely you jest.
- 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM
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I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme
- 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM
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In my view...
- 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM
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Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT
- 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM
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I think...
- 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM
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Interesting.
- 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM
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Aran'gar playing Demandred...
- 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM
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Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM*
- 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM
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*NM*