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Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM
Rahvin and Sammael had control of vastly more powerful nations, and this did not seem to earn them any special rewards.

I don't know - if Demandred has been spending all of his time putting order to Murandy, I just don't think his time would have been as well spent as it would have been if he brought the Seanchan from across the ocean, the Ayyad from across the continent or untold legions from unknown parts of the world.



Who are just as likely to flip to the light if forced to fight next to Trollocs and Fades?

Seems like the more human armies you marshal the more you increase the odds that your enemies will have armed and trained soldiers.

I think if Demandred is working with human armies someplace, he's likely doing it to destabilize an area or at least set it up to be in a really bad spot when the real armies of the Shadow appear.
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The legend of Murandy's unimportance Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1247 Views
But it's still a small country Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 639 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 651 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 588 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 865 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 606 Views
to confirm you amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 613 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 614 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 274 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* mazza3 - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 290 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 266 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 566 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 544 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 591 Views
What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM 558 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 641 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 591 Views
Of course.. Shannow - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 578 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 628 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 569 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. dadof5 - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 633 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 554 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 538 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 584 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 541 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 553 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 734 Views
Well... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 610 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 579 Views
It is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 545 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 554 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 576 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 260 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 554 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 262 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 277 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 549 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 547 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... Etzel - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 552 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 539 Views
He doesn't? Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 509 Views
Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding... Etzel - 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM 627 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. Sidious - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 569 Views
Surely you jest. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 470 Views
Re: Surely you jest. Sidious - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 534 Views
Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 545 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 938 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... Heiko - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 553 Views
But that is exactly... Etzel - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 559 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 600 Views
Honestly, at this point BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 553 Views
In my view... Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 536 Views
Re: In my view... BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 548 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 667 Views
I think... Etzel - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 526 Views
You're right Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 566 Views
Interesting. BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 500 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... Etzel - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 557 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 230 Views
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