What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him?
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM
That fits with the Shadow's aim.
I think the DO doesn't really need such a foreign barbarian army (e.g. from Shara or the Land of the Madmen), because he has enough Shadowspawn coming south.
And considering the plot-mechanics, if the DO additionally had such a strong barbarian army somewhere, the Light probably had no chance at all.
I think the DO doesn't really need such a foreign barbarian army (e.g. from Shara or the Land of the Madmen), because he has enough Shadowspawn coming south.
And considering the plot-mechanics, if the DO additionally had such a strong barbarian army somewhere, the Light probably had no chance at all.
The primary goal and ultimate aim is more simple - free the Dark One. Causing chaos seemed to occur as much as a result of Rand al'Thor's victories as it did as an after-effect of the Forsaken's actions. If the Forsaken could locate all the Seals and break them immediately, then they wouldn't have even bothered taking over the nations that they did.
The problem, from a plot mechanics standpoint, is that it really works either way - it is to the Dark One's benefit if Murandy stays destabilized as well as if a Forsaken took over there. But the main concern is that Graendal's task, destabilizing Arad Doman to such an extent that it could never be united, seems completely counter to what you suggest Demandred is doing. And we need to keep in mind that Mesaana and Semirhage were tasked with using far more powerful nations and factions while they were useful but with the ultimate goal of destroying them as soon as they were done. Uniting divided lands for the sake of marshalling them for Tarmon Gaidon just doesn't seem like a victory major enough to make the Dark One laugh. It would actually be more like a regression in scope from what we saw in the series.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
The legend of Murandy's unimportance
15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM
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But it's still a small country
15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM
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Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller
15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM
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Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller
15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM
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The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands.
15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM
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Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations
15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM
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I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos.
15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM
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As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM*
15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM
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I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed.
15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM
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But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series...
15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM
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But that's not the Shadow's aim.
15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM
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What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him?
15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM
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I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca...
15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM
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Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO...
15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM
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Of course..
15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM
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The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them
16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM
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Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos.
15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM
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Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos.
15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM
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But this has been going on since at least aCoS
16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM
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Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS
16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM
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well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far
16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM
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Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready?
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Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready?
15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM
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It is insignificant.
15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM
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It's importance lies in it's strategic location.
16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM
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I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there.
16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM
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what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM*
16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM
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Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall.
16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM
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Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS!
16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM
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A Murandian army is insignificant.
16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM
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For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you...
16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM
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He doesn't?
16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM
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Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding...
17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM
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Re: A Murandian army is insignificant.
16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM
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Surely you jest.
16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM
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I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme
16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM
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In my view...
16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM
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Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT
17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM
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I think...
17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM
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Interesting.
17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM
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Aran'gar playing Demandred...
17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM
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Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM*
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