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Re: Clearly dead Datakim Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 08:41:15 PM

Presumably, the balefire stream Rand used to kill Semirhage & Elza was narrow - narrow enough that it only hit them, not the bracelets. Whereas, the balefire stream Rand used to destroy the palace was HUGELY WIDE - wide enough to wipe out the entire palace and everything in it, presumably. I don't have the book in front of me, but I recall that it was said that there was nothing left where the palace had been standing.


I am pretty sure the way it was described was that the balefire stream was NOT wide and large enough to encompass the entire place. But rather that the palace somehow "absorbed" the balefire energy and started glowing from that. I think the term was "breathed in". And then when it had absorbed enough the whole place vanished in an instant. That is completely unlike balefire we have seen before.

Either BS wrote it differently, or this was somekind of new type of balefire. I suppose you could argue that Rand used LTT knowledge to modify the balefire weave but there was no mention of it. I figure BS just wrote it differently. This causes a lot of confusion. I am not entirely convinced that BS and RJ views on balefire are identical.
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Nynaeve's boat... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:23:57 PM 1247 Views
Balefire is REALLY confusing. Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:41:05 PM 1169 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:52:04 PM 1087 Views
I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 08:45:52 PM 4842 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM 1079 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 10:30:42 PM 1137 Views
Wasn't there a quote somewhere BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:05:32 AM 1058 Views
Probably a bit of retconning there by Brandon Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:34:55 PM 1027 Views
BS is definitely wrong here BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:01:23 AM 1048 Views
Re: BS is definitely wrong here Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:36:06 PM 1016 Views
There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:00:31 PM 1103 Views
Re: There is another way... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:35:05 PM 1159 Views
Re: There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 11:05:26 PM 1042 Views
Nope randfandom - 06/01/2010 04:36:56 AM 1141 Views
USe Occam's Razor yourself... fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:53:22 AM 1239 Views
and why didn't she invert any of the weaves? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:55:54 AM 1043 Views
Exactly! *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:27:52 PM 558 Views
Maybe you cannot invert compulsion? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:56:35 PM 1071 Views
so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? seems a little darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:31:09 PM 1006 Views
Re: so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:02:00 AM 968 Views
I am inclined to agree with Datakim here. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 02:04:42 AM 1267 Views
Why aren't inverted weaves standard practice? BlackAdder - 07/01/2010 01:24:09 AM 1087 Views
Balefire is so confusing Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:03:29 PM 1140 Views
Re: Balefire is so confusing Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:52:57 PM 1140 Views
She's dead as a bloody doornail. Or whatever that saying is... *NM* lilltempest - 05/01/2010 07:20:36 PM 553 Views
Clearly dead Etzel - 05/01/2010 07:29:11 PM 1284 Views
Re: Clearly dead Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:21:16 PM 1157 Views
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I think... Etzel - 05/01/2010 09:05:48 PM 1103 Views
No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 07:31:12 PM 1150 Views
Re: No way. Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:31:54 PM 1027 Views
Re: No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 10:16:03 PM 1102 Views
Graendal's as dead as BS/RJ makes her. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 06/01/2010 02:40:46 AM 536 Views
She's dead as dead gets. everynametaken - 06/01/2010 01:43:34 AM 996 Views
Dead is my bet Sidious - 06/01/2010 11:48:46 AM 1010 Views
She's dead *NM* Simon - 06/01/2010 11:58:34 AM 546 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:19 PM 543 Views
I think she's alive. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:12:50 PM 1065 Views
Compulsion is rather useless isn't it? Syraelle - 06/01/2010 07:44:42 PM 1139 Views
It may take an exceptional Delver/Healer Gher - 06/01/2010 08:49:37 PM 1117 Views
perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:06:49 PM 1037 Views
Re: perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:42:17 PM 1081 Views
What if.. Tweak - 06/01/2010 10:41:44 PM 1008 Views
I'll roll my eyes, and snort if she's alive Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:21:20 AM 1001 Views
Well... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:24:39 AM 1240 Views
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