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Re: Clearly dead Datakim Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 08:41:15 PM

Presumably, the balefire stream Rand used to kill Semirhage & Elza was narrow - narrow enough that it only hit them, not the bracelets. Whereas, the balefire stream Rand used to destroy the palace was HUGELY WIDE - wide enough to wipe out the entire palace and everything in it, presumably. I don't have the book in front of me, but I recall that it was said that there was nothing left where the palace had been standing.


I am pretty sure the way it was described was that the balefire stream was NOT wide and large enough to encompass the entire place. But rather that the palace somehow "absorbed" the balefire energy and started glowing from that. I think the term was "breathed in". And then when it had absorbed enough the whole place vanished in an instant. That is completely unlike balefire we have seen before.

Either BS wrote it differently, or this was somekind of new type of balefire. I suppose you could argue that Rand used LTT knowledge to modify the balefire weave but there was no mention of it. I figure BS just wrote it differently. This causes a lot of confusion. I am not entirely convinced that BS and RJ views on balefire are identical.
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Balefire is REALLY confusing. Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:41:05 PM 1122 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:52:04 PM 1059 Views
I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 08:45:52 PM 4814 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM 1050 Views
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Wasn't there a quote somewhere BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:05:32 AM 1018 Views
Probably a bit of retconning there by Brandon Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:34:55 PM 986 Views
BS is definitely wrong here BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:01:23 AM 1019 Views
Re: BS is definitely wrong here Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:36:06 PM 983 Views
There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:00:31 PM 1076 Views
Re: There is another way... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:35:05 PM 1110 Views
Re: There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 11:05:26 PM 1017 Views
Nope randfandom - 06/01/2010 04:36:56 AM 1088 Views
USe Occam's Razor yourself... fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:53:22 AM 1207 Views
and why didn't she invert any of the weaves? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:55:54 AM 1010 Views
Exactly! *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:27:52 PM 536 Views
Maybe you cannot invert compulsion? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:56:35 PM 1041 Views
so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? seems a little darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:31:09 PM 980 Views
Re: so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:02:00 AM 923 Views
I am inclined to agree with Datakim here. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 02:04:42 AM 1234 Views
Why aren't inverted weaves standard practice? BlackAdder - 07/01/2010 01:24:09 AM 1064 Views
Balefire is so confusing Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:03:29 PM 1108 Views
Re: Balefire is so confusing Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:52:57 PM 1096 Views
She's dead as a bloody doornail. Or whatever that saying is... *NM* lilltempest - 05/01/2010 07:20:36 PM 536 Views
Clearly dead Etzel - 05/01/2010 07:29:11 PM 1241 Views
Re: Clearly dead Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:21:16 PM 1118 Views
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No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 07:31:12 PM 1125 Views
Re: No way. Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:31:54 PM 996 Views
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Graendal's as dead as BS/RJ makes her. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 06/01/2010 02:40:46 AM 512 Views
She's dead as dead gets. everynametaken - 06/01/2010 01:43:34 AM 963 Views
Dead is my bet Sidious - 06/01/2010 11:48:46 AM 976 Views
She's dead *NM* Simon - 06/01/2010 11:58:34 AM 511 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:19 PM 524 Views
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Compulsion is rather useless isn't it? Syraelle - 06/01/2010 07:44:42 PM 1109 Views
It may take an exceptional Delver/Healer Gher - 06/01/2010 08:49:37 PM 1084 Views
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Well... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:24:39 AM 1208 Views
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