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Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM
Then again, they'd have to, since otherwise time wouldn't flow in places where there are no living things... Confusing, a bit.


It seems you equate "time flow" with "threads", which I'm not sure I understand.

Regardless though, when we see the Brown Ajah section of the WT switch places with the Novice section, we see physical objects (wall stones, floor tiles, tapestries, etc.) MOVE with respect to other objects. And it's hard for me to imagine how that could occur (given my admittedly limited understanding of what the Pattern actually is) if those objects didn't have threads.

Anyway, as to balefire affecting objects, I'm pretty sure it doesn't - we have several examples of balefiring objects and the things on top of them falling to the ground, such as Rand against Rahvin (The Threads Burn) or Jeaine Caide wielding that balefire ter'angreal in the Panarch's Palace (Into the Palace). If objects were balefired back in time, those things would already be on the ground.


By "affecting", I guess you mean that balefire doesn't cause objects to cease to exist backwards in time. I'd have to go back and read the examples you cited to be sure, but I assume you're right about them. Seems a bit odd that object threads would react differently to balefire than living threads, but if that's the way it is, who am I to argue?
Rise and fall, turn the Wheel,
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Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) Shishka - 05/01/2010 05:44:12 PM 2654 Views
Re: Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) randfandom - 05/01/2010 06:46:19 PM 1386 Views
Re: Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:15:41 PM 1259 Views
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Balefire is REALLY confusing. Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:41:05 PM 1121 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:52:04 PM 1059 Views
I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 08:45:52 PM 4814 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM 1050 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 10:30:42 PM 1093 Views
Wasn't there a quote somewhere BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:05:32 AM 1017 Views
Probably a bit of retconning there by Brandon Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:34:55 PM 986 Views
BS is definitely wrong here BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:01:23 AM 1018 Views
Re: BS is definitely wrong here Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:36:06 PM 983 Views
There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:00:31 PM 1075 Views
Re: There is another way... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:35:05 PM 1109 Views
Re: There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 11:05:26 PM 1017 Views
Nope randfandom - 06/01/2010 04:36:56 AM 1088 Views
USe Occam's Razor yourself... fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:53:22 AM 1206 Views
and why didn't she invert any of the weaves? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:55:54 AM 1010 Views
Exactly! *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:27:52 PM 536 Views
Maybe you cannot invert compulsion? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:56:35 PM 1041 Views
so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? seems a little darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:31:09 PM 980 Views
Re: so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:02:00 AM 923 Views
I am inclined to agree with Datakim here. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 02:04:42 AM 1234 Views
Why aren't inverted weaves standard practice? BlackAdder - 07/01/2010 01:24:09 AM 1064 Views
Balefire is so confusing Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:03:29 PM 1108 Views
Re: Balefire is so confusing Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:52:57 PM 1096 Views
She's dead as a bloody doornail. Or whatever that saying is... *NM* lilltempest - 05/01/2010 07:20:36 PM 536 Views
Clearly dead Etzel - 05/01/2010 07:29:11 PM 1241 Views
Re: Clearly dead Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:21:16 PM 1118 Views
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I think... Etzel - 05/01/2010 09:05:48 PM 1069 Views
No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 07:31:12 PM 1124 Views
Re: No way. Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:31:54 PM 996 Views
Re: No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 10:16:03 PM 1074 Views
Graendal's as dead as BS/RJ makes her. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 06/01/2010 02:40:46 AM 512 Views
She's dead as dead gets. everynametaken - 06/01/2010 01:43:34 AM 963 Views
Dead is my bet Sidious - 06/01/2010 11:48:46 AM 976 Views
She's dead *NM* Simon - 06/01/2010 11:58:34 AM 511 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:19 PM 524 Views
I think she's alive. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:12:50 PM 1016 Views
Compulsion is rather useless isn't it? Syraelle - 06/01/2010 07:44:42 PM 1108 Views
It may take an exceptional Delver/Healer Gher - 06/01/2010 08:49:37 PM 1084 Views
perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:06:49 PM 1012 Views
Re: perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:42:17 PM 1046 Views
What if.. Tweak - 06/01/2010 10:41:44 PM 974 Views
I'll roll my eyes, and snort if she's alive Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:21:20 AM 968 Views
Well... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:24:39 AM 1208 Views
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