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Re: There is another way... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 11:05:26 PM

I'm with you so far, although it's still a pretty big leap, for me, to accept that Graendal realized the purpose of the emissary, immediately (or very quickly) after she became aware that Rand was about to weave Balefire. But the addition of knowing about the Balefire makes the idea less implausible, I agree.

But what other purpose could Ramshalan serve if Rand Balefires the entire palace?

I agree that there may have been enough time, but I just think it's unlikely she'd be able to do such a thing from a distance.

I don't know. Nynaeve wasn't able to recognize all the weaves in his head. What were the extras?
I like the way you included Aran'gar, though. I tried to think of a way for it to have been Aran'gar, not Graendal, who Compelled the emissary (and therefore that it was she who died in the balefire blast, not Graendal), but it just doesn't work. The Complusion was definitely done with saidar, since Nynaeve could see the weaves. That rules out Aran'gar's involvement, unless she and Graendal linked, and Aran'gar lead the link (would this be considered a 1man-1woman link, in which case Aran'gar would HAVE to lead?) and channeled saidar through Graendal. But that seems about as implausible as an idea can get!

Thanks! I think if she/he were present, she/he would have survived with Graendal.


If Graendal is still alive, it seems a reasonable conclusion, regardless how she managed to survive.

Yup.

My reason for thinking she is alive is that the whole situation with Kerb poisoning that Domani merchant reeked of a trap. Why the heck would Graendal want to poison a woman who's never likely to see sunlight again if not to draw Rand's attention?
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