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Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* Bryce Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM
...and the papacy in the real world during the Renaissance and Reformation periods is pretty darn amazing. You even have people kneeling before the Amyrlin and kissiing her ring...

Think of the Sitters as the College of Cardinals, and the Amyrlin as the Pope, and you'll see why the Aes Sedai in the Tower seem so ineffectual now...

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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous beetnemesis - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1470 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... vandevere - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 996 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* Bryce - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 581 Views
That is the inspiration for the Aes Sedai that RJ used - I can't find the article, though. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 02:39:14 PM 965 Views
When I was reading this I was thinking of the paralells between the white tower and Tashmere - 03/09/2009 02:47:33 AM 1247 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 1018 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. Corwin - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 989 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 952 Views
Re: Really? Corwin - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 917 Views
So lets add a few more NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 926 Views
most of these are accounted for above ranagrande - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 999 Views
Just because we don't know all their names, doesn't mean their effectiveness on the Pattern was less RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 03:19:41 PM 1019 Views
But who did the work? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 821 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 841 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 869 Views
Actually I think that's his point ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 972 Views
Spot-on beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 786 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 817 Views
Re: But who did the work? ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 910 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 924 Views
well, yeah ranagrande - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 960 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. fionwe1987 - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 862 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 840 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 808 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 856 Views
I'm not convinced that it does ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 947 Views
I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 871 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 906 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 846 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 1102 Views
Re: I don't understand your point NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 848 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 866 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 820 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 882 Views
No you are talking about Elaida NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 825 Views
You just made our point... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 892 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 804 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 904 Views
WT has been THE single greatest force for stagancy and lack of development. Lohikaarme - 09/09/2009 08:58:58 AM 850 Views
Like I said earlier the AS are superfluous except the ones who aren't superfluous. NaClH2O - 09/09/2009 11:55:47 AM 937 Views
To a certain extent ajsr1982 - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 1118 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 882 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 1021 Views
Without the Tower Voscaia Sedai - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 777 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. nossy - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 828 Views
Agrees with Nossy NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 1133 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 795 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 1152 Views
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