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Yeah..... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM
Remember Egwene? She was held prisoner in the Stone, entered T'A'R, accomplished a Shield on a Black Sister and returned to her body only to find that the physical door was still locked. Moghedien could have done the same.

Especially since the most important information is already revealed to her: Nynaeve had forced Moghedien to enter T'A'R to go to Caemlyn to fight Rahvin, thus Moghedien could have been busy in T'A'R while sleeping, trying to find a way out of her predicament.


But Asmodean wasn't killed in the Dream World. He was killed in the real one. I know that the adam doesn't limit one from entering the real world, but ultimately what does it matter. You cannot effect the real world from the dream world. If it was at all possible, Moghedian would have known about it and done it to get herself out. Instead, she took her punishment and ultimately dealt with the consequences.

Also remember that Nynaeve didn't force Moghedien into the Dreamworld....she caught her there. It wasn't until Moghedian was looking for a way to win her freedom with info that Nynaeve even knew that Rand was battling Rhavin. It was then just blind luck/ tavaren that the end of the battle happened to go down in the Dreamworld & not the real one. Otherwise, Nynaeve linked to Moghedian would have been completely useless.

~Jeordam
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So your name is Graendal.... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM 2000 Views
one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM 869 Views
She very well... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM 1332 Views
Exactly how I feel ... to the letter! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 11:17:57 PM 726 Views
Re: She very well... jiggy - 02/02/2010 08:42:17 AM 1377 Views
Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM 769 Views
Bold like saying that water is wet.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM 908 Views
I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM 545 Views
Moghedien.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM 1064 Views
The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM 1047 Views
Yeah..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM 1212 Views
Re: Yeah..... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM 962 Views
This brings up a very intersting question... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:30:49 PM 1233 Views
Re: This brings up a very intersting question... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:57:24 PM 941 Views
Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM 1049 Views
when was Semirhage in an a'dam? *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 08:48:27 PM 568 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM 1097 Views
Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM 977 Views
It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM 945 Views
That's still extremely faint. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:10 PM 956 Views
Re: That's still extremely faint. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:34:06 PM 989 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 01:02:13 AM 947 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM 1194 Views
The chance that Moggy killed Asmo is actually 0 % Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:32:03 PM 1057 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:36:04 PM 878 Views
Well, I completely disagree, but that's another discussion. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:07:05 PM 538 Views
Yes, I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:26:13 PM 692 Views
As bad as Sammael's death. *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2010 02:00:02 AM 551 Views
The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced. Libby - 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM 1150 Views
Yes, pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 11:21:31 PM 1050 Views
Couple of flaws in that reasoning Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM 1331 Views
Graendal already has a massive inverted ward around the palace. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:23:44 PM 1115 Views
Come on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM 1232 Views
IMO Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM 1028 Views
This could go either way.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM 1160 Views
RE: Strength and Compulsion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM 1158 Views
I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM 1043 Views
Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM 1065 Views
Verin was using her angreal when she compelled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 08:00:50 PM 575 Views
Danke for clarification. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:15:39 PM 892 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM 1058 Views
Its still a game... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:09:42 PM 1097 Views
I could buy... Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:16:43 PM 998 Views
Please, Artsapat - 02/02/2010 10:42:00 AM 1026 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:10:41 PM 1026 Views
My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused. TaskmasterJack - 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM 991 Views
So what would you say... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:12:09 PM 992 Views
Wow. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 06:00:11 PM 1031 Views
Never underestimate.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:08:42 PM 950 Views
"Oh, no... Rand is totally going to balefire me!" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 03/02/2010 08:50:26 PM 516 Views
A conclusion with an explanation built around it. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM 1073 Views
Hah! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:38 PM 925 Views
I miss Diomedes . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:45 PM 512 Views
So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM 1127 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM 992 Views
Ok...I'm just saying... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM 1161 Views
I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM 986 Views
That's ridiculous rAndy aL - 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM 1008 Views
Hold on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM 1190 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM 992 Views
Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM 1033 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 04/02/2010 04:44:31 AM 961 Views
Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said. Logain - 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM 918 Views
Kind of Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 04:10:04 AM 1073 Views
I disagree. Gher - 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM 891 Views
But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications? Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM 1199 Views
Two things come to mind... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM 1092 Views
I don't really think this is relevant Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM 1021 Views
There's a difference.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM 1077 Views
I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM 1036 Views
*grins* Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM 1079 Views
But again... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM 959 Views
sure we do darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM 941 Views
Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM 922 Views
But here's the thing... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM 1041 Views
I think we disagree with what "subtle" means here. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:46:20 PM 928 Views
Kerb was more subtle than most, but we've seen subtler. Gher - 04/02/2010 05:16:33 PM 1167 Views
Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM 935 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM 965 Views
Re: ... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM 968 Views
But Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM 1090 Views
I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM 1252 Views
Hrm Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM 1154 Views
It happens in WH when they go to tell her that Moridin is N'B darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:43:11 PM 1007 Views
Thanks *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:47:29 PM 528 Views
Now try and not lynch me... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:08:11 PM 1029 Views
But that's not how it happened BlackAdder - 03/02/2010 08:18:59 PM 984 Views
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