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Yeah..... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM
Remember Egwene? She was held prisoner in the Stone, entered T'A'R, accomplished a Shield on a Black Sister and returned to her body only to find that the physical door was still locked. Moghedien could have done the same.

Especially since the most important information is already revealed to her: Nynaeve had forced Moghedien to enter T'A'R to go to Caemlyn to fight Rahvin, thus Moghedien could have been busy in T'A'R while sleeping, trying to find a way out of her predicament.


But Asmodean wasn't killed in the Dream World. He was killed in the real one. I know that the adam doesn't limit one from entering the real world, but ultimately what does it matter. You cannot effect the real world from the dream world. If it was at all possible, Moghedian would have known about it and done it to get herself out. Instead, she took her punishment and ultimately dealt with the consequences.

Also remember that Nynaeve didn't force Moghedien into the Dreamworld....she caught her there. It wasn't until Moghedian was looking for a way to win her freedom with info that Nynaeve even knew that Rand was battling Rhavin. It was then just blind luck/ tavaren that the end of the battle happened to go down in the Dreamworld & not the real one. Otherwise, Nynaeve linked to Moghedian would have been completely useless.

~Jeordam
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So your name is Graendal.... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM 1721 Views
one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM 732 Views
She very well... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM 1032 Views
Exactly how I feel ... to the letter! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 11:17:57 PM 594 Views
Re: She very well... jiggy - 02/02/2010 08:42:17 AM 957 Views
Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM 634 Views
Bold like saying that water is wet.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM 674 Views
I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM 413 Views
Moghedien.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM 765 Views
The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM 742 Views
Yeah..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM 926 Views
Re: Yeah..... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM 712 Views
This brings up a very intersting question... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:30:49 PM 936 Views
Re: This brings up a very intersting question... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:57:24 PM 699 Views
Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM 803 Views
when was Semirhage in an a'dam? *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 08:48:27 PM 419 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM 730 Views
Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM 720 Views
It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM 642 Views
That's still extremely faint. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:10 PM 721 Views
Re: That's still extremely faint. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:34:06 PM 771 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 01:02:13 AM 670 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM 886 Views
The chance that Moggy killed Asmo is actually 0 % Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:32:03 PM 797 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:36:04 PM 632 Views
Well, I completely disagree, but that's another discussion. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:07:05 PM 395 Views
Yes, I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:26:13 PM 544 Views
As bad as Sammael's death. *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2010 02:00:02 AM 414 Views
The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced. Libby - 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM 875 Views
Yes, pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 11:21:31 PM 788 Views
Couple of flaws in that reasoning Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM 1050 Views
Graendal already has a massive inverted ward around the palace. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:23:44 PM 838 Views
Come on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM 952 Views
IMO Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM 773 Views
This could go either way.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM 917 Views
RE: Strength and Compulsion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM 926 Views
I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM 797 Views
Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM 795 Views
Verin was using her angreal when she compelled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 08:00:50 PM 449 Views
Danke for clarification. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:15:39 PM 649 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM 786 Views
Its still a game... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:09:42 PM 806 Views
I could buy... Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:16:43 PM 757 Views
Please, Artsapat - 02/02/2010 10:42:00 AM 760 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:10:41 PM 728 Views
My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused. TaskmasterJack - 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM 740 Views
So what would you say... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:12:09 PM 715 Views
Wow. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 06:00:11 PM 779 Views
Never underestimate.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:08:42 PM 693 Views
"Oh, no... Rand is totally going to balefire me!" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 03/02/2010 08:50:26 PM 389 Views
A conclusion with an explanation built around it. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM 816 Views
Hah! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:38 PM 650 Views
I miss Diomedes . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:45 PM 361 Views
So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM 818 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM 716 Views
Ok...I'm just saying... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM 882 Views
I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM 745 Views
That's ridiculous rAndy aL - 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM 762 Views
Hold on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM 928 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM 753 Views
Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM 761 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 04/02/2010 04:44:31 AM 693 Views
Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said. Logain - 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM 698 Views
Kind of Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 04:10:04 AM 781 Views
I disagree. Gher - 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM 647 Views
But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications? Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM 922 Views
Two things come to mind... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM 842 Views
I don't really think this is relevant Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM 758 Views
There's a difference.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM 786 Views
I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM 787 Views
*grins* Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM 806 Views
But again... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM 719 Views
sure we do darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM 672 Views
Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM 655 Views
But here's the thing... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM 768 Views
I think we disagree with what "subtle" means here. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:46:20 PM 688 Views
Kerb was more subtle than most, but we've seen subtler. Gher - 04/02/2010 05:16:33 PM 906 Views
Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM 644 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM 719 Views
Re: ... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM 698 Views
But Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM 791 Views
I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM 963 Views
Hrm Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM 871 Views
It happens in WH when they go to tell her that Moridin is N'B darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:43:11 PM 738 Views
Thanks *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:47:29 PM 394 Views
Now try and not lynch me... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:08:11 PM 766 Views
But that's not how it happened BlackAdder - 03/02/2010 08:18:59 PM 755 Views
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