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But again... Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM
In this case I think it is, because for the victim to not show any ill effects from being Compulsed (especially by Graendal, who is noted throughout the series for her heavyhandedness there) makes it much more likely that the weave was never there (BF) than that it was there and went away.


Do you remember that part in the book...I don't remember who says it...but they commented that so many forget that Graendal is so far skilled in Compulsion that they often focus on the fact that she is heavy handed, that they do not remember that she is as skilled with the subtler types of Compulsion.

~Jeordam


I think we see that though in the difference between somebody like Kerb compared to her pets...he's much more subtley Compulsed than they are (who can do nothing other than adore and worship her and strive to make her happy). Again, we have no evidence in the books that even subtle compulsion wouldn't have SOME effect on the target when lifted.
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So your name is Graendal.... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM 1629 Views
one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM 682 Views
She very well... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM 878 Views
Exactly how I feel ... to the letter! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 11:17:57 PM 539 Views
Re: She very well... jiggy - 02/02/2010 08:42:17 AM 831 Views
Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM 581 Views
Bold like saying that water is wet.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM 544 Views
I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM 367 Views
Moghedien.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM 635 Views
The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM 591 Views
Yeah..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM 796 Views
Re: Yeah..... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM 589 Views
This brings up a very intersting question... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:30:49 PM 800 Views
Re: This brings up a very intersting question... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:57:24 PM 603 Views
Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM 671 Views
when was Semirhage in an a'dam? *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 08:48:27 PM 364 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM 550 Views
Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM 600 Views
It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM 507 Views
That's still extremely faint. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:10 PM 580 Views
Re: That's still extremely faint. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:34:06 PM 626 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 01:02:13 AM 535 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM 755 Views
The chance that Moggy killed Asmo is actually 0 % Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:32:03 PM 655 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:36:04 PM 498 Views
Well, I completely disagree, but that's another discussion. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:07:05 PM 347 Views
Yes, I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:26:13 PM 479 Views
As bad as Sammael's death. *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2010 02:00:02 AM 346 Views
The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced. Libby - 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM 740 Views
Yes, pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 11:21:31 PM 632 Views
Couple of flaws in that reasoning Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM 930 Views
Graendal already has a massive inverted ward around the palace. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:23:44 PM 699 Views
Come on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM 842 Views
IMO Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM 646 Views
This could go either way.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM 793 Views
RE: Strength and Compulsion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM 792 Views
I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM 682 Views
Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM 662 Views
Verin was using her angreal when she compelled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 08:00:50 PM 392 Views
Danke for clarification. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:15:39 PM 523 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM 652 Views
Its still a game... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:09:42 PM 693 Views
I could buy... Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:16:43 PM 639 Views
Please, Artsapat - 02/02/2010 10:42:00 AM 637 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:10:41 PM 586 Views
My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused. TaskmasterJack - 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM 608 Views
So what would you say... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:12:09 PM 595 Views
Wow. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 06:00:11 PM 649 Views
Never underestimate.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:08:42 PM 568 Views
"Oh, no... Rand is totally going to balefire me!" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 03/02/2010 08:50:26 PM 326 Views
A conclusion with an explanation built around it. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM 693 Views
Hah! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:38 PM 520 Views
I miss Diomedes . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:45 PM 308 Views
So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM 661 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM 587 Views
Ok...I'm just saying... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM 760 Views
I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM 617 Views
That's ridiculous rAndy aL - 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM 630 Views
Hold on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM 770 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM 626 Views
Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM 641 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 04/02/2010 04:44:31 AM 568 Views
Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said. Logain - 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM 571 Views
Kind of Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 04:10:04 AM 639 Views
I disagree. Gher - 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM 517 Views
But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications? Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM 797 Views
Two things come to mind... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM 719 Views
I don't really think this is relevant Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM 626 Views
There's a difference.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM 670 Views
I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM 663 Views
*grins* Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM 672 Views
But again... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM 600 Views
sure we do darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM 541 Views
Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM 521 Views
But here's the thing... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM 632 Views
I think we disagree with what "subtle" means here. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:46:20 PM 562 Views
Kerb was more subtle than most, but we've seen subtler. Gher - 04/02/2010 05:16:33 PM 755 Views
Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM 522 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM 601 Views
Re: ... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM 554 Views
But Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM 659 Views
I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM 758 Views
Hrm Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM 742 Views
It happens in WH when they go to tell her that Moridin is N'B darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:43:11 PM 600 Views
Thanks *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:47:29 PM 336 Views
Now try and not lynch me... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:08:11 PM 634 Views
But that's not how it happened BlackAdder - 03/02/2010 08:18:59 PM 626 Views
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