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But again... Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM
In this case I think it is, because for the victim to not show any ill effects from being Compulsed (especially by Graendal, who is noted throughout the series for her heavyhandedness there) makes it much more likely that the weave was never there (BF) than that it was there and went away.


Do you remember that part in the book...I don't remember who says it...but they commented that so many forget that Graendal is so far skilled in Compulsion that they often focus on the fact that she is heavy handed, that they do not remember that she is as skilled with the subtler types of Compulsion.

~Jeordam


I think we see that though in the difference between somebody like Kerb compared to her pets...he's much more subtley Compulsed than they are (who can do nothing other than adore and worship her and strive to make her happy). Again, we have no evidence in the books that even subtle compulsion wouldn't have SOME effect on the target when lifted.
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So your name is Graendal.... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM 1746 Views
one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM 750 Views
She very well... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM 1059 Views
Exactly how I feel ... to the letter! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 11:17:57 PM 609 Views
Re: She very well... jiggy - 02/02/2010 08:42:17 AM 1080 Views
Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM 647 Views
Bold like saying that water is wet.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM 703 Views
I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM 430 Views
Moghedien.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM 794 Views
The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM 813 Views
Yeah..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM 953 Views
Re: Yeah..... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM 742 Views
This brings up a very intersting question... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:30:49 PM 967 Views
Re: This brings up a very intersting question... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:57:24 PM 727 Views
Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM 833 Views
when was Semirhage in an a'dam? *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 08:48:27 PM 435 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM 771 Views
Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM 751 Views
It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM 670 Views
That's still extremely faint. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:10 PM 753 Views
Re: That's still extremely faint. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:34:06 PM 798 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 01:02:13 AM 742 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM 935 Views
The chance that Moggy killed Asmo is actually 0 % Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:32:03 PM 822 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:36:04 PM 666 Views
Well, I completely disagree, but that's another discussion. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:07:05 PM 408 Views
Yes, I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:26:13 PM 561 Views
As bad as Sammael's death. *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2010 02:00:02 AM 434 Views
The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced. Libby - 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM 909 Views
Yes, pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 11:21:31 PM 820 Views
Couple of flaws in that reasoning Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM 1102 Views
Graendal already has a massive inverted ward around the palace. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:23:44 PM 873 Views
Come on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM 979 Views
IMO Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM 798 Views
This could go either way.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM 945 Views
RE: Strength and Compulsion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM 951 Views
I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM 822 Views
Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM 830 Views
Verin was using her angreal when she compelled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 08:00:50 PM 463 Views
Danke for clarification. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:15:39 PM 676 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM 822 Views
Its still a game... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:09:42 PM 837 Views
I could buy... Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:16:43 PM 783 Views
Please, Artsapat - 02/02/2010 10:42:00 AM 789 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:10:41 PM 757 Views
My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused. TaskmasterJack - 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM 768 Views
So what would you say... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:12:09 PM 745 Views
Wow. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 06:00:11 PM 812 Views
Never underestimate.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:08:42 PM 719 Views
"Oh, no... Rand is totally going to balefire me!" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 03/02/2010 08:50:26 PM 405 Views
A conclusion with an explanation built around it. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM 852 Views
Hah! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:38 PM 677 Views
I miss Diomedes . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:45 PM 375 Views
So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM 856 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM 743 Views
Ok...I'm just saying... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM 915 Views
I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM 775 Views
That's ridiculous rAndy aL - 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM 790 Views
Hold on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM 954 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM 783 Views
Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM 785 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 04/02/2010 04:44:31 AM 722 Views
Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said. Logain - 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM 719 Views
Kind of Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 04:10:04 AM 810 Views
I disagree. Gher - 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM 679 Views
But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications? Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM 950 Views
Two things come to mind... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM 872 Views
I don't really think this is relevant Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM 785 Views
There's a difference.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM 822 Views
I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM 818 Views
*grins* Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM 835 Views
But again... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM 751 Views
sure we do darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM 697 Views
Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM 684 Views
But here's the thing... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM 794 Views
I think we disagree with what "subtle" means here. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:46:20 PM 723 Views
Kerb was more subtle than most, but we've seen subtler. Gher - 04/02/2010 05:16:33 PM 935 Views
Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM 673 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM 758 Views
Re: ... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM 725 Views
But Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM 827 Views
I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM 993 Views
Hrm Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM 898 Views
It happens in WH when they go to tell her that Moridin is N'B darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:43:11 PM 767 Views
Thanks *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:47:29 PM 416 Views
Now try and not lynch me... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:08:11 PM 793 Views
But that's not how it happened BlackAdder - 03/02/2010 08:18:59 PM 781 Views
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