Active Users:351 Time:04/07/2025 05:07:39 AM
Re: This thought is so grotesque... RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 03/02/2010 07:40:01 PM
That we might really find out in ToM or AMoL that Graendal sneaked away before Rand balefired the palace. On a re-read of this scene TGS we would then laugh about Rand's pretentious & ridiculous explanation how to outsmart someone like Graendal, because - as we know now - it isn't possible at all and Rand is just an idiot to try it.


I think Rand's little speech deserves to be laughed at. It is so at odds with many of the concepts of the series that I think it was meant to show how unbalance Rand was, not to illustrate a successful strategy.

I mean, how many times has Rand "reached across a table and punched" a Forsaken before "playing their game" now? Basically, this was his mentality earlier in the series, and in many ways it illustrates his regression to insanity IMHO.

He's *never* beaten a Forsaken at their own game - his M.O. is pretty consistent; he shows up, mostly as a shock assault, a reaction to their own offensive or in a surprise attack, and proceeds to chase the Forsaken once he figures out where they are.
"Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will sooner or later have to find time for illness."
Reply to message
So your name is Graendal... - 03/02/2010 04:38:42 PM 1410 Views
First off.... - 03/02/2010 04:51:46 PM 622 Views
Re: First off.... - 03/02/2010 05:09:06 PM 479 Views
Nice - 03/02/2010 05:46:45 PM 560 Views
Well we know she has a weather/temperature warding screen around her palace - 03/02/2010 05:58:27 PM 479 Views
Not really - 03/02/2010 06:02:27 PM 455 Views
Re: Not really - 03/02/2010 06:12:05 PM 565 Views
There's one other possibility... - 03/02/2010 11:42:25 PM 562 Views
But... - 04/02/2010 01:03:05 AM 446 Views
Nope... - 04/02/2010 06:19:56 AM 604 Views
Point granted. - 04/02/2010 06:56:19 AM 576 Views
Read the books - 04/02/2010 03:47:23 PM 568 Views
- 04/02/2010 06:13:00 PM 587 Views
- 04/02/2010 06:35:27 PM 522 Views
Yeah, that's why I figured I'd post my Sidious wish-fulfillment theory below . - 04/02/2010 07:44:22 PM 552 Views
Thanks! And I just copy pasted... - 04/02/2010 09:03:21 PM 446 Views
Is it really that plausible? - 04/02/2010 04:18:25 AM 456 Views
Ahhh, but... - 04/02/2010 06:22:46 AM 536 Views
Re: Ahhh, but... - 04/02/2010 06:40:40 PM 458 Views
So your name is Robert Jordan - 03/02/2010 05:53:43 PM 753 Views
But unfortunately and tragically... - 03/02/2010 06:01:15 PM 529 Views
This thought is so grotesque... - 03/02/2010 07:20:20 PM 509 Views
Re: This thought is so grotesque... - 03/02/2010 07:40:01 PM 507 Views
Actually no Forsaken has ever beaten or outsmarted Rand in a confrontation before. - 03/02/2010 08:50:41 PM 494 Views
Uhhh... - 03/02/2010 09:01:57 PM 618 Views
Yeah, but... - 03/02/2010 09:21:51 PM 485 Views
But I think you're misreading the rules of the game. - 03/02/2010 09:31:40 PM 423 Views
Rand considers... - 04/02/2010 10:10:59 AM 420 Views
I don't think.... - 04/02/2010 06:11:03 PM 584 Views
O_O - 03/02/2010 09:25:17 PM 460 Views
Yeah, and this is exactly what we see when Rand kills Graendal with a force of light. *NM* - 03/02/2010 09:29:08 PM 186 Views
When Rand thinks that he kills.... - 03/02/2010 09:34:41 PM 448 Views
He defeats every Forsaken because he doesn't play their game - 04/02/2010 04:23:23 AM 562 Views
I agree. *NM* - 04/02/2010 10:11:51 AM 538 Views
I think there is a sexual dynamic here - 04/02/2010 04:45:49 PM 452 Views
Bingo - 03/02/2010 06:03:19 PM 526 Views
That is not true.. - 03/02/2010 11:50:18 PM 571 Views
This was a typical... - 04/02/2010 10:17:56 AM 420 Views
There was nothing typical about it! - 04/02/2010 08:48:16 PM 533 Views
Rand wasn't at all afraid of Graendal - 04/02/2010 09:22:53 PM 514 Views
Of course he was! Even Nynaeve and Min noticed! - 04/02/2010 09:32:52 PM 580 Views
Re: That is not true.. - 04/02/2010 03:57:56 PM 647 Views
But RJ/BS brike convention in this book... - 04/02/2010 08:52:44 PM 571 Views
So your name is Basel Gill. - 04/02/2010 12:53:13 AM 481 Views
So your name is Sidious - 04/02/2010 12:57:46 AM 577 Views
Just use the TARDIS. *NM* - 04/02/2010 05:04:52 AM 305 Views
Re: So your name is Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:48:52 PM 437 Views
You're offering me a throne? Thanks Siddy, you're my favourite archnemesis! - 04/02/2010 06:16:54 PM 528 Views
A throne of beetles - 04/02/2010 06:35:58 PM 474 Views
How exactly do you fashion a throne out of live beetles? - 04/02/2010 07:46:42 PM 493 Views

Reply to Message