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You know what's really embarrassing? Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM
Luc and Slayer are one being created/merged by the DO, Slayer enters TAR "in the flesh" (contrary to "in the dream" ), it makes sense that he can enter TAR in the flesh from everywhere in the Real World, consequently it also only makes sense that he can leave TAR at every place & return into the Real World (especially if he is an assassin, as e.g. the stanza about Slayer in the Dark Prophecy implies), this would actually also explain the strange assassination in the Stone and the WT, which apparently weren't done by a mere Gray Man, or why Fain's Myrddraal fears that much that Slayer will find it. It's a bit embarrassing that you still can't even grasp those simple basics, although I explained them several times.


That you somehow think that by repeating the same irrelevant inanities over and over again, I'll forget what my argument is and just concede from confusion. I've only asked you one thing, which was to provide any reason to believe that Slayer could travel from point to point in the real world by jumping through Tel'aran'rhiod. Why you insist on repeating 'Slayer is an assassin! Slayer is an assassin! Slayer is an assassin!' is quite beyond me. I assumed you knew this already, but 'being able to teleport' is not a defining characteristic of an assassin. You know this, right?

And as I said last post, you revert to being in Tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh (not entering in the flesh, mind you, that was never demonstrated) is somehow indicative of the ability to travel from point to point in the real world to it. You know, just because you can randomly jump to conclusions doesn't mean that in any way makes those conclusions reasonable. Especially when there is evidence against that conclusion.

I give you that probably only the deleted scene in TSR about Slayer's powers, which BS mentioned recently, would have made this blatantly obvious to many readers at that time . But as RJ said, he trusted that generally his readers are reasonable intelligent to deduce things and don't have to be told that water is wet.


Exactly. Which is why Basel Gill killed Asmodean. You see, he is actually a very powerful Shadow channeler (I know there is no evidence to support this, but you don't need to be told that water is wet, do you?) and wanted to kill Asmodean to take his place among the Forsaken (not knowing that Forsaken ranking doesn't work that way). I know he's shown to be with Morgase at the time, but that was just an illusion so people wouldn't suspect him. He's an assassin, you know?
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson newyorkersedai - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 1860 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" Nargs - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 655 Views
The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is... Etzel - 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM 677 Views
So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway? Jeordam - 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM 757 Views
I think Slayer spied on Asmo Etzel - 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM 538 Views
Fair enough.... Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM 780 Views
I think... Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:31:41 AM 606 Views
I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM* Narg - 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM 252 Views
Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM* Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM 468 Views
Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM 505 Views
Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 536 Views
In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM* Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM 539 Views
Actually that's one of my hang-ups about Slayer too darius_sedai - 06/04/2010 02:27:22 PM 515 Views
As far as I'm concerned... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM 527 Views
The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer... Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM 521 Views
Correction... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 471 Views
So, basically... Etzel - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 507 Views
The clues are there? Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 512 Views
Re: The clues are there? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 494 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 546 Views
well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM 552 Views
Apparently... Etzel - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 522 Views
No it isn't. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 508 Views
You don't understand... Etzel - 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM 531 Views
Re: You don't understand... Fanatic-Templar - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 529 Views
Re: You don't understand... newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 500 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 509 Views
Both merged into one being Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 541 Views
Not what I asked. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 488 Views
If he couldn't do this... Etzel - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 521 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 492 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... Etzel - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 535 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 257 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 571 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 502 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 468 Views
Dude Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 456 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 592 Views
be nice *NM* saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 237 Views
One last time... Etzel - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 505 Views
Re: One last time... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 509 Views
No... Etzel - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 519 Views
Re: No... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 503 Views
So... Etzel - 01/04/2010 10:22:31 AM 488 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 01/04/2010 06:41:34 PM 592 Views
Egwene did it though darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM 505 Views
Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM 495 Views
Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* Etzel - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 250 Views
But we don't actually see that darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 488 Views
But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense. Etzel - 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM 521 Views
by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM 504 Views
Hmm. True, that. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 443 Views
I see what you are saying now darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 443 Views
Yep Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:27:27 PM 466 Views
A question on balefire/2 servants The Angry Druid - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM 459 Views
Re: A question on balefire/2 servants TaskmasterJack - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 484 Views
First rule of balefire: Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 463 Views
Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does! darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM 463 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. Gher - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 493 Views
On the servants theory Etzel - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 465 Views
Rand's odd wounds newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 457 Views
RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds. Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM 466 Views
Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to? Cannoli - 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM 545 Views
RJ said that. *NM* Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 447 Views
Do you have that quote handy? darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 478 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 455 Views
Here: Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 467 Views
thanks! good job *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 214 Views
You dont address all the criteria saidarisnowtainted - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 461 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 210 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 462 Views
Exactly my point. Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 478 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 521 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 227 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 202 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 484 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted newyorkersedai - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 452 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson saidarisnowtainted - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 509 Views
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