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As Katie said, the husband is still around. Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM
I agree. I wonder whether the other female death eaters are under Voldemort's spell in the same way as Bellatrix. Could there be some way in which it is acceptable for them to act as something outside their position as women based on some sort of obsession cult around Voldemort? I am speculating wildly now, in an attempt to make sense of the apparent contradiction. Or is there a married woman/unmarried aspect? Bellatrix was married, but what happened to her husband? Did he get killed?

He may well resent his wife being only interested in Voldemort, but if he does he's smart enough not to make that public. And nah, I think Bellatrix is a special case there. I figure the sexism is just not entirely consistent - women taking active roles is frowned upon, but not unheard of. And Narcissa's presence at the meeting may be more because she's the host than because she takes an active role as a Death Eater.
It is written later, but I still think there was an element of the Grand Tour up until the first world war. Although less fixed in form.

Okay.
You mean that the lack of a fluffy set of happy memories which has been Dudley's cushion all his life was such a shock it make him catatonic on its own, without any particularly bad memory to cause it?

I mean that you seem overly fixated on the unhappy memories aspect of the Dementors. For Harry the memories of his parents' death is of course the worst part of a Dementor attack, but even if someone had no unhappy memories at all, such an attack would be traumatic - the cold, the feeling of helplessness, the feeling that there is nothing good in the world anymore.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book 7 - The Deathly Hallows - 24/11/2010 07:47:44 PM 4203 Views
Suggestions - tell us what we could do better for this final discussion. - 24/11/2010 07:48:22 PM 1990 Views
Spoilers for book 7? - 24/11/2010 09:07:28 PM 2119 Views
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*cough* - 16/12/2010 01:05:05 PM 2118 Views
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I think it was/is so successful because... - 06/12/2010 11:06:59 PM 2100 Views
Overall thoughts for The Deathly Hallows - 24/11/2010 07:50:12 PM 2089 Views
This might be the only book other than the first where I actually like Harry. - 30/11/2010 03:13:25 PM 1996 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 30/11/2010 03:22:20 PM 1073 Views
Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! - 04/12/2010 03:45:24 PM 2132 Views
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all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:54:22 PM 2041 Views
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It's not as boring as I thought it was. - 06/12/2010 10:52:17 PM 1956 Views
Having finished it again... it's good, at times great, but not the best book in the series, imho. - 26/12/2010 08:19:47 PM 2246 Views
Yes and no - 26/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 2139 Views
Chapters 1-3: The Dark Lord Ascending, In Memorian, The Dursleys Departing. - 24/11/2010 07:51:29 PM 2118 Views
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Draco, female Death Eaters, Dumbledore. - 25/11/2010 04:44:36 PM 2285 Views
Re: Draco, female Death Eaters, Dumbledore. - 25/11/2010 04:53:25 PM 2165 Views
I always forget Bellatrix is married. - 26/11/2010 03:28:24 AM 2438 Views
As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM 2179 Views
Re: As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 26/11/2010 11:12:18 AM 2158 Views
Dudley - 30/11/2010 01:40:09 PM 2210 Views
Re: As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 06/12/2010 08:41:56 PM 2058 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* - 24/11/2010 11:47:19 PM 2217 Views
Correction - 25/11/2010 12:38:57 AM 2102 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* <--- - 27/11/2010 11:42:47 AM 2305 Views
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The epigraphs. - 24/11/2010 10:06:58 PM 2183 Views
I had considered making a separate section just for them. - 27/11/2010 11:44:01 AM 2025 Views
other stuff - 24/11/2010 11:47:54 PM 1957 Views
I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. - 25/11/2010 04:26:58 PM 1939 Views
Re: I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. - 27/11/2010 01:20:44 AM 2044 Views
Isn't it "the dear departed" and "dearly beloved"? *NM* - 26/11/2010 11:32:22 PM 1023 Views
Maybe? - 26/11/2010 11:34:32 PM 1919 Views
Chapters 4-6: The Seven Potters, The Fallen Warrior, The Ghoul in Pyjamas *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:27:53 PM 1028 Views
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Re: the film & Hermione - 26/11/2010 08:38:05 PM 1933 Views
Oh yes. - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 2071 Views
Re: the film & Hermione - 27/11/2010 01:24:40 AM 2001 Views
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Me too - 04/12/2010 03:40:38 PM 1982 Views
The Delacours - 30/11/2010 03:01:35 PM 1972 Views
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The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 26/11/2010 07:30:35 PM 1946 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 27/11/2010 11:59:36 AM 2316 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 30/11/2010 03:05:38 PM 2162 Views
Yes, Dumbledore gives a very complex answer about the wand thing - 01/12/2010 08:44:57 PM 1951 Views
The Portkeys make a certain amount of sense, actually. - 06/12/2010 08:56:24 PM 2380 Views
Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 2050 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 1016 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 01:30:12 AM 1989 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 03:30:26 AM 1978 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 12:04:21 PM 2041 Views
Mr Weasley's additions to the motorbike are hilarious. - 27/11/2010 06:48:50 PM 2039 Views
Chapters 7-9: The Will of Albus Dumbledore, The Wedding, A Place to Hide - 29/11/2010 06:39:52 PM 1929 Views
The characters: usual suspects, Scrimgeour, Doge, Krum, Luna, Xenophilius, etc. - 29/11/2010 06:41:41 PM 2035 Views
Mrs Weasley, Ginny, Lupin, Mr Lovegood, Luna, Hermione - 29/11/2010 06:56:31 PM 2077 Views
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I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:00:28 PM 1994 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:55:00 PM 1953 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 10:06:01 PM 2161 Views
The action. - 29/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 1914 Views
Plotting, mainly. - 29/11/2010 06:57:06 PM 2039 Views
Hermione and obliviate. - 30/11/2010 02:23:51 PM 1985 Views
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I think this was a Rowling mistake. It happens - 01/12/2010 08:32:25 PM 2070 Views
I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 1022 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 2042 Views
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Kreacher quoting Regulus raises an interesting point... - 06/12/2010 08:33:02 PM 2178 Views
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IIRC - 06/12/2010 10:06:23 PM 2219 Views
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Please, sir, may I have some more? *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:44:14 PM 964 Views
I want magic for my wedding *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:57:29 PM 1008 Views
I'll see what I can do. *NM* - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 1066 Views
I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 02:59:04 PM 2053 Views
Re: I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 03:24:35 PM 1924 Views
And back in book 4. Dumbledore sends Hagrid a message like this - 01/12/2010 08:33:46 PM 1995 Views
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Characters: more of the trio, Kreacher, Mundungus, RAB and Umbridge - 01/12/2010 11:42:34 PM 1933 Views
Hermione and Ron, Sirius, Regulus, Kreacher, Lupin, Harry, Scrimgeour - 02/12/2010 09:11:21 AM 2234 Views
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Not surprising, perhaps. - 06/12/2010 09:56:58 PM 2011 Views
Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 09:54:53 PM 2022 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:05:57 PM 2046 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:10:27 PM 1978 Views
And? And? And? *NM* - 01/12/2010 11:43:46 PM 1014 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Muggle-Born Registration Commission, The Thief, The Goblin's Revenge *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:01:25 AM 1158 Views
Plotting, writing, theming. - 04/12/2010 11:08:47 AM 2186 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:10:52 AM 1043 Views
It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. - 06/12/2010 10:09:04 PM 2042 Views
Good catch - 06/12/2010 10:19:21 PM 1917 Views
Chapters 16-18: Godric's Hollow, Bathilda's Secret, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore - 06/12/2010 09:57:00 PM 2039 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Bathilda, Dumbledore and others - 06/12/2010 09:57:52 PM 2119 Views
Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:02:13 PM 2152 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:14:26 PM 2234 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:18:15 PM 2339 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:34:15 PM 2018 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:36:18 PM 2037 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:39:58 PM 2286 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:42:27 PM 1945 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 1962 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 1924 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 1982 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 1970 Views
True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 983 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 2020 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 2172 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 1974 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 1995 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 1675 Views
Re: As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:32:04 PM 2025 Views
Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 1020 Views
Chapters 19-21: The Silver Doe, Xenophilius Lovegood, The Tale of the Three Brothers - 08/12/2010 08:47:04 PM 2068 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 1072 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 2154 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 2185 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 2068 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 2268 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 2094 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 2057 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 2024 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 2042 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 1978 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 2020 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 2058 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 999 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2138 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 2042 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 2030 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 1994 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 1985 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 2164 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 1742 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 980 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 1943 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 2118 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 1000 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 1928 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 1037 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 2230 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 2059 Views
On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2084 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2104 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 1979 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 09:42:31 AM 2052 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 2089 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 1006 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 1967 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 990 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 1891 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 2117 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 2162 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2337 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 2040 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 903 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 1981 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 1967 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 1986 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 1883 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 1913 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 1978 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 1012 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 2075 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 1037 Views
Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 968 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 2244 Views
Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 2018 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2360 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 2085 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 2206 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 2013 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 989 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 2073 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 2045 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 2253 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 1014 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 2014 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 1976 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 2038 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 1920 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2277 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 2142 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 2034 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2413 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 2065 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 1840 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 2132 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 2023 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 2013 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 2144 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 921 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 1897 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 1917 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 1954 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 2091 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 2166 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 2171 Views
Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 1936 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 2056 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 2024 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2064 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2344 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2075 Views

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