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Dumbledore: Harry's interpretation of why Dumbledore did not raise the connection of Godric's Hollow so that they could share it is, as usual, rather off, I think. It seems clear to me that the reason why he did not is that the memory of Godric's Hollow and how his sister ended up sharing the graveyard with Harry's parents is too painful. Harry can desire the bond, as he has no guilt in the death of his parents, but Dumbledore cannot do the same. (This is not a slight on Harry's understanding: he could not have known with the information he has at the time.)

And while I quite firmly believe that authorial intention cannot dictate interpretation, I love Rowling's explanation that Dumbledore was in love with Grindewald. It makes perfect sense to me and adds another side to the story. It fits. It was not obvious to me when I first read the story, but it is definitely part of it now.

Hermione and Harry: they take turns walking on egg-shells. Hermione more than Harry, I think. Even when she is crying because Ron has left, it seems that not mentioning him is based mainly in Harry's feelings of betrayal.

Voldemort: I liked the peek into his head when the relives killing the Potters. The evaluation of them as weak because they live a normal life without constant vigilance, the focus on the inexplicably dangerous child.

Rita Skeeter: are there really no laws against using veritaserum on people? She is quite open about it. I find it baffling. Also, I hate the woman.
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The Portkeys make a certain amount of sense, actually. - 06/12/2010 08:56:24 PM 1988 Views
Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 1655 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 831 Views
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Plotting, mainly. - 29/11/2010 06:57:06 PM 1655 Views
Hermione and obliviate. - 30/11/2010 02:23:51 PM 1614 Views
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I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 855 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 1670 Views
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Please, sir, may I have some more? *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:44:14 PM 796 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:18:15 PM 1935 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:36:18 PM 1659 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:39:58 PM 1927 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:42:27 PM 1521 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 1573 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 1531 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 1538 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 1589 Views
True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 818 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 1637 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 1760 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 1586 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 1601 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 1288 Views
Re: As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:32:04 PM 1611 Views
Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 851 Views
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Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 897 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 1776 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 1806 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 1678 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 1881 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 1713 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 1638 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 1626 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 1640 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 1589 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 1614 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 1682 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 820 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 1758 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 1640 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 1634 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 1612 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 1596 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 1790 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 1334 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 817 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 1535 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 1742 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 827 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 1545 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 867 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 1847 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 1669 Views
On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 1700 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 1713 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 1576 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 09:42:31 AM 1646 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 1692 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 833 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 1561 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 814 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 1504 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 1733 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 1764 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 1944 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 1674 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 724 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 1585 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 1568 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 1603 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 1501 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 1522 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 1601 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 827 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 1703 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 857 Views
Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 795 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 1855 Views
Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 1633 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 1949 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 1711 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 1812 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 1612 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 813 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 1683 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 1671 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 1844 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 833 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 1640 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 1600 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 1650 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 1530 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 1863 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 1708 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 1646 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2020 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 1675 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 1438 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 1761 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 1636 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 1615 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 1765 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 747 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 1536 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 1542 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 1559 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 1702 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 1780 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 1790 Views
Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 1544 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 1671 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 1592 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 1657 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 1952 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 1702 Views

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