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Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM
Snape: Is there a remnant of semi-sadistic attitude to Harry in making him get the sword by diving into a frozen lake? I can imagine him smiling at the thought, in a "oh, my, god save me from Gryffindors and their heroics" kind of way. Not in an evil way. More in an "I'll be damned if I make this too easy" way. Perhaps not. More likely, I suppose, it is in order to make it make sense to Harry, as it does.

I like this moment for Snape. While he is never visible, it appeals to me. We get to see it again in his memories, I think?


We do find out that this was him in the pensieve memories he leaves for Harry. His memory was primarily around conjuring his patronus, IIRC. I love that it's him and love that he does it unseen. His revelations chapter at the end is the best in the series for me. It uncovers all sorts of things he's gone through, thanklessly, to help everyone.

Ron: Is saving Harry his first real act of bravery? I mean, he has followed Harry into scary places before, but this seems like the first time he has done something brave impulsively and by himself. Or is there something I have forgotten?


This goes a long way to redeeming him as a character and fixing his relationship with Harry / Hermoine. He's finally done something, on his own, not just as a bi-product of following Harry around. I never really understood that about his character. We talked earlier about the Harry / Hermoine combo and how effective they are as a pair. This finally gives Ron something to stand on as his own, as a contributing member of the trio, as does destroying the horcrux. Seems kind of like a turning point for him because he starts coming up with things throughout the rest of the book, i.e. planning for Gringots, the basalisk fangs, etc.

Hermione: I really liked her reaction to the reappearance of Ron. The whole scene is well played. Both the anger and the sarcasm at his hardships.


This was a fantastic way for her to react. Love that she makes him earn his way back in, despite that he's already done something more impactful and brave than he has for the entire beginning of the series.

I cannot quite blame him for turning them in. He is desperate and has no way of coping with it.

Luna: Her hearbreakingness continues with the painting on the ceiling.


Can definitely understand Xeno giving them up. They promised him his daughter back afterall and she's all he has left. The painting was very touching. Luna is awesome.

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Oh yes. - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 2587 Views
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Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 27/11/2010 11:59:36 AM 2881 Views
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Yes, Dumbledore gives a very complex answer about the wand thing - 01/12/2010 08:44:57 PM 2503 Views
The Portkeys make a certain amount of sense, actually. - 06/12/2010 08:56:24 PM 2920 Views
Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 2598 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 1349 Views
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Mr Weasley's additions to the motorbike are hilarious. - 27/11/2010 06:48:50 PM 2627 Views
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I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 1320 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 2583 Views
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I'll see what I can do. *NM* - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 1369 Views
I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 02:59:04 PM 2588 Views
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I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 2567 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 2533 Views
True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 1296 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 2548 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 2727 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 2503 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 2555 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 2224 Views
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Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 1326 Views
Chapters 19-21: The Silver Doe, Xenophilius Lovegood, The Tale of the Three Brothers - 08/12/2010 08:47:04 PM 2597 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 1378 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 2712 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 2762 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 2642 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 2822 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 2659 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 2605 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 2600 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 2579 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 2557 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 2629 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 2584 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 1301 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2702 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 2627 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 2670 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 2517 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 2557 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 2676 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 2293 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 1288 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 2468 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 2651 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 1301 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 2465 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 1356 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 2828 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 2637 Views
On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2618 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2638 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 2543 Views
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Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 2653 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 1328 Views
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Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 1288 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 2483 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 2688 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 2744 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2919 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 2630 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 1216 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 2533 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 2514 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 2545 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 2424 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 2443 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 2545 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 1326 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 2626 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 1339 Views
Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 1264 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 2810 Views
Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 2585 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2895 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 2614 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 2794 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 2531 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 1313 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 2609 Views
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Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 1325 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 2582 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 2538 Views
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Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 2474 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2851 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 2727 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 2597 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2953 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 2614 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 2400 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 2671 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 2587 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 2577 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 2695 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 1221 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 2430 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 2479 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 2540 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 2646 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 2749 Views
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Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 2490 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 2620 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 2601 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2567 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2885 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2610 Views

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