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As Katie said, the husband is still around. Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM
I agree. I wonder whether the other female death eaters are under Voldemort's spell in the same way as Bellatrix. Could there be some way in which it is acceptable for them to act as something outside their position as women based on some sort of obsession cult around Voldemort? I am speculating wildly now, in an attempt to make sense of the apparent contradiction. Or is there a married woman/unmarried aspect? Bellatrix was married, but what happened to her husband? Did he get killed?

He may well resent his wife being only interested in Voldemort, but if he does he's smart enough not to make that public. And nah, I think Bellatrix is a special case there. I figure the sexism is just not entirely consistent - women taking active roles is frowned upon, but not unheard of. And Narcissa's presence at the meeting may be more because she's the host than because she takes an active role as a Death Eater.
It is written later, but I still think there was an element of the Grand Tour up until the first world war. Although less fixed in form.

Okay.
You mean that the lack of a fluffy set of happy memories which has been Dudley's cushion all his life was such a shock it make him catatonic on its own, without any particularly bad memory to cause it?

I mean that you seem overly fixated on the unhappy memories aspect of the Dementors. For Harry the memories of his parents' death is of course the worst part of a Dementor attack, but even if someone had no unhappy memories at all, such an attack would be traumatic - the cold, the feeling of helplessness, the feeling that there is nothing good in the world anymore.
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Suggestions - tell us what we could do better for this final discussion. - 24/11/2010 07:48:22 PM 2541 Views
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*cough* - 16/12/2010 01:05:05 PM 2644 Views
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Agreed. *NM* - 30/11/2010 03:22:20 PM 1367 Views
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Yes and no - 26/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 2703 Views
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As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM 2692 Views
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Maybe? - 26/11/2010 11:34:32 PM 2457 Views
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Oh yes. - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 2579 Views
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Me too - 04/12/2010 03:40:38 PM 2607 Views
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The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 26/11/2010 07:30:35 PM 2469 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 27/11/2010 11:59:36 AM 2866 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 30/11/2010 03:05:38 PM 2694 Views
Yes, Dumbledore gives a very complex answer about the wand thing - 01/12/2010 08:44:57 PM 2487 Views
The Portkeys make a certain amount of sense, actually. - 06/12/2010 08:56:24 PM 2905 Views
Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 2585 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 1342 Views
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Mr Weasley's additions to the motorbike are hilarious. - 27/11/2010 06:48:50 PM 2613 Views
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I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:00:28 PM 2514 Views
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The action. - 29/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 2444 Views
Plotting, mainly. - 29/11/2010 06:57:06 PM 2596 Views
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I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 1310 Views
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Please, sir, may I have some more? *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:44:14 PM 1261 Views
I want magic for my wedding *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:57:29 PM 1301 Views
I'll see what I can do. *NM* - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 1361 Views
I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 02:59:04 PM 2581 Views
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Not surprising, perhaps. - 06/12/2010 09:56:58 PM 2538 Views
Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 09:54:53 PM 2574 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:05:57 PM 2589 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:10:27 PM 2537 Views
And? And? And? *NM* - 01/12/2010 11:43:46 PM 1327 Views
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It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. - 06/12/2010 10:09:04 PM 2555 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:18:15 PM 2891 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:34:15 PM 2556 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:36:18 PM 2595 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:39:58 PM 2805 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:42:27 PM 2511 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 2463 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 2524 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 2558 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 2526 Views
True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 1286 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 2536 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 2713 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 2490 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 2542 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 2207 Views
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Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 1318 Views
Chapters 19-21: The Silver Doe, Xenophilius Lovegood, The Tale of the Three Brothers - 08/12/2010 08:47:04 PM 2590 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 1371 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 2701 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 2755 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 2628 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 2809 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 2642 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 2592 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 2588 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 2567 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 2548 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 2612 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 2571 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 1296 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2688 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 2615 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 2656 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 2505 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 2544 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 2665 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 2283 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 1279 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 2454 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 2643 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 1295 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 2451 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 1350 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 2814 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 2627 Views
On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2606 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2628 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 2523 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 09:42:31 AM 2601 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 2643 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 1320 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 2506 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 1277 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 2473 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 2677 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 2732 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2905 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 2621 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 1207 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 2522 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 2502 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 2532 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 2414 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 2433 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 2535 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 1319 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 2611 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 1332 Views
Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 1255 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 2800 Views
Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 2573 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2881 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 2598 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 2784 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 2522 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 1307 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 2599 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 2569 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 2809 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 1318 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 2570 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 2526 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 2557 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 2462 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2834 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 2715 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 2589 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2938 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 2602 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 2390 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 2660 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 2576 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 2568 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 2675 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 1216 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 2421 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 2464 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 2526 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 2636 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 2736 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 2719 Views
Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 2474 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 2608 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 2590 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2555 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2878 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2597 Views

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