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Re: I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast... Camilla Send a noteboard - 17/08/2012 06:33:24 AM
...between the colorful, prideful world that many of the characters think they inhabit, and the brutal reality that Martin frequently reminds us of.

It's an interesting reminder of how unhealthy this universe's societies really are, and the things they do to try to hide from that fact.

Or maybe I'm reading to much into it.


Oh, I like the contrast he sets up. I am just not sure that the catalogues of banners are the best device for that.
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A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin Camilla - 13/08/2012 10:48:37 PM 14089 Views
Fascinating. Legolas - 13/08/2012 11:40:22 PM 2671 Views
Re: Fascinating. Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:23:13 AM 2481 Views
Mainly the names. Werthead - 17/08/2012 12:07:21 AM 2389 Views
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Not really. Legolas - 14/08/2012 07:01:36 PM 2666 Views
Shocking Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:49:18 AM 2625 Views
On the Rape issue.... djwilson300 - 14/08/2012 01:19:35 AM 2512 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... dacole - 14/08/2012 02:02:42 AM 2374 Views
Firstly, Camilla is a she. Secondly, though I won't speak for her, regarding the rape in the novels, Ghavrel - 14/08/2012 02:23:19 AM 2534 Views
When does he use rape in an erotic manner? A Deathwatch Guard - 14/08/2012 05:48:59 AM 2379 Views
like all the time. Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:45:42 PM 2493 Views
Camilla is indeed a she. Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:18:58 AM 2429 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. dacole - 14/08/2012 04:37:17 PM 2437 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:39:31 AM 2650 Views
I for one never saw any of the rapes as erotic imlad - 21/08/2012 05:04:11 PM 2677 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:17:55 AM 2377 Views
How is that a violent rape? At worst it would be statutory rape. Cannoli - 17/08/2012 11:53:44 AM 2454 Views
The wedding night is statutory. I would describe the later rapes as fairly violent. Camilla - 17/08/2012 12:13:26 PM 2605 Views
That was her only sex scene, until she induces him to have outdoor sex to get pregnant Cannoli - 17/08/2012 07:20:09 PM 2476 Views
It is not necessary to provide a scene Camilla - 17/08/2012 10:49:20 PM 2503 Views
I believe that what is happening here is called confirmation bias *NM* Kotagg - 21/08/2012 06:23:38 PM 1345 Views
House Banners/Sigils imlad - 21/08/2012 04:56:07 PM 2450 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin dacole - 14/08/2012 02:08:59 AM 2322 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:25:11 AM 2447 Views
I think you misread one part Dark Knight - 14/08/2012 04:51:34 PM 2584 Views
I think that the Rhaegar and Lyanna stuff does look like rape in the first book Stephen - 14/08/2012 08:10:27 PM 2381 Views
"Looks like" is this case meaning "explicitly stated to be that way"? Cannoli - 17/08/2012 11:56:48 AM 2332 Views
Currently kicking myself Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:43:36 AM 2704 Views
Re: Currently kicking myself Stephen - 16/08/2012 10:11:01 AM 2410 Views
what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... temeraire - 15/08/2012 01:21:38 AM 2334 Views
Re: what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... Camilla - 15/08/2012 07:39:24 AM 2681 Views
philippa gregory co-authored a book "the women of the cousins' war" - it was very interesting temeraire - 16/08/2012 07:54:50 PM 2410 Views
Wait...why would you waste time reading this fluff series when it's out on TV? Tom - 16/08/2012 12:10:32 AM 2486 Views
Trollolololololololllll *NM* Kotagg - 16/08/2012 01:02:22 AM 1221 Views
Se noteboard. *NM* Camilla - 16/08/2012 06:29:39 AM 1254 Views
Game, set, and match *NM* Praziquantel - 18/08/2012 03:50:38 PM 1207 Views
I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast... lord-of-shadow - 16/08/2012 11:52:40 PM 2293 Views
Re: I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast... Camilla - 17/08/2012 06:33:24 AM 2568 Views
I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better Werthead - 17/08/2012 12:20:16 AM 2499 Views
Re: I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better Camilla - 17/08/2012 06:40:12 AM 2510 Views
I think it messed it up by showing forced intercourse without the verbal consent Drogo DID obtain Cannoli - 17/08/2012 12:07:14 PM 2452 Views
I still find it difficult to read it as anything other than a coerced consent Stephen - 17/08/2012 01:08:15 PM 2298 Views
A perpetrator-less crime then. Cannoli - 17/08/2012 07:26:26 PM 2438 Views
Exactly! I'm on board, Cannoli. Kotagg - 18/08/2012 07:45:56 PM 2283 Views
You are missing the point. Camilla - 18/08/2012 11:11:33 PM 2533 Views
Re: You are missing the point. Werthead - 19/08/2012 01:25:30 PM 2467 Views
Re: You are missing the point. Camilla - 19/08/2012 01:40:11 PM 2552 Views
So, you're saying that Juliet was raped by Romeo??? imlad - 21/08/2012 05:24:56 PM 2486 Views
The later books do add more context and change some of this snoopcester - 19/08/2012 12:08:49 AM 2350 Views
Re: The later books do add more context and change some of this Camilla - 19/08/2012 07:27:59 AM 2479 Views
That makes sense snoopcester - 19/08/2012 02:35:36 PM 2107 Views
Jesus Christ another fucking thread about rape and fantasy. Dan - 19/08/2012 01:47:43 AM 1460 Views
Perhaps if reading other people's views makes you so angry, you should avoid reading them? *NM* snoopcester - 19/08/2012 02:37:03 PM 1282 Views
High blood pressure can kill, I hear. *NM* Camilla - 19/08/2012 03:33:14 PM 1352 Views
Nonsense. nossy - 19/08/2012 03:33:39 PM 1234 Views
Fixed it for you. Dan - 19/08/2012 08:22:18 PM 1339 Views
Oh, but that takes us back to snoop being right, and I'm sorry, but I just cannot abide that. nossy - 19/08/2012 10:56:10 PM 1276 Views
Shake the sand out of your vagina bitch. *NM* everynametaken - 20/08/2012 06:35:32 AM 1241 Views
Gosh, this is really turning into something fun. nossy - 20/08/2012 07:15:01 AM 1392 Views
Here I was about to make a "whee misogyny" post. I never get to have fun. *NM* Ghavrel - 20/08/2012 09:09:04 AM 1113 Views
Huh. I just came to the odd realization... Legolas - 20/08/2012 08:29:56 PM 1336 Views
Don't lock it! Dan - 21/08/2012 05:11:34 AM 1297 Views
Yes, I'm aware, or I might have locked it already. Legolas - 21/08/2012 06:17:29 PM 1182 Views
I'd ask that you do lock it. Stephen - 21/08/2012 10:00:48 PM 1255 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Legolas - 22/08/2012 06:26:04 PM 1163 Views
I may join you Camilla - 20/08/2012 10:14:50 PM 1326 Views
COME AT ME BRO *NM* Dan - 21/08/2012 05:09:34 AM 1191 Views
The interesting part is... ? - 28/08/2012 01:39:49 AM 2273 Views
That is the best written and most insightful review of that book I have read random thoughts - 01/09/2012 05:38:00 PM 2334 Views
I forgot that I was supposed to read all threads to watch out for Bad Behaviour. Rebekah - 01/09/2012 11:09:52 PM 2578 Views
i'm rereading the series now and yeah there is a LOT of rape Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:38:27 PM 2944 Views
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