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I would like to see the study and statistics that produced this answer. Werthead Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 05:24:02 PM
While most non-SFF stuff may be crap, when you siphon off that which fits very neatly into other genres, you are left with a lesser percentage of crap.


Because there is no way any person could know this without reading the sum total of human literature published to this point. Which is beyond even Larry's powers ;)
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In Support of Other Fiction Tom - 01/12/2009 09:06:14 PM 2365 Views
Rebekah - 01/12/2009 09:22:56 PM 1413 Views
Re: Tom - 01/12/2009 09:28:04 PM 1406 Views
you shouldn't feel the need to defend a non SF/F suggestion, just don't imlad - 03/12/2009 03:34:28 PM 1403 Views
Wow...we were just Santified *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 09:16:21 PM 732 Views
Well, let me offer a diverging view on the topic of speculative fiction. jh - 01/12/2009 09:46:35 PM 1341 Views
I would counter that the stripping away removes a level of reality. Tom - 01/12/2009 10:05:28 PM 1425 Views
That's a Slippery Slope Because You Could Argue On the Same Basis That All Fiction Does That. The Name With No Man - 01/12/2009 11:34:34 PM 1481 Views
I don't see the slippery slope, but rather, a confirmation of my original point. Tom - 02/12/2009 01:41:24 AM 1396 Views
perhaps some university will do a study imlad - 03/12/2009 03:55:54 PM 1392 Views
I'd like to see it Tom - 03/12/2009 09:15:12 PM 1416 Views
I'll get to it once I finish my thesis Camilla - 03/12/2009 09:56:29 PM 1362 Views
If it looks like crap and smells like crap... Tom - 03/12/2009 10:04:15 PM 1407 Views
I Think I'll Post a Thread on This. The Name With No Man - 03/12/2009 06:47:05 PM 1355 Views
I'd like to see it. Tom - 03/12/2009 09:23:07 PM 1431 Views
Regarding depth in Jordan Camilla - 03/12/2009 09:31:19 PM 1384 Views
I was thinking about that too Tom - 03/12/2009 10:05:40 PM 1378 Views
Re: I was thinking about that too Camilla - 03/12/2009 10:09:26 PM 1452 Views
Destroying the Wheel is meaningless. Tom - 03/12/2009 10:18:08 PM 1325 Views
Re: Destroying the Wheel is meaningless. Camilla - 03/12/2009 10:30:15 PM 1394 Views
It would. Destroying the Wheel would likely make him a Buddhist. Tom - 03/12/2009 10:51:17 PM 1343 Views
I Totally Missed That. Joel - 04/12/2009 10:45:56 PM 1479 Views
Re: I Totally Missed That. Camilla - 04/12/2009 10:47:59 PM 1417 Views
I Don't Believe It Cursory, But Comparative. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 11:29:36 PM 1538 Views
Publication bookend Y2K? Camilla - 05/12/2009 10:36:01 AM 1422 Views
They're Thick Bookends. The Name With No Man - 05/12/2009 06:12:06 PM 1392 Views
I'll Try to Have It Up Tomorrow Early. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 11:24:18 PM 1437 Views
Re: Well, let me offer a diverging view on the topic of speculative fiction. Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:28:30 AM 1379 Views
I like it. Ghavrel - 01/12/2009 10:28:48 PM 1379 Views
Thank you! Tom - 02/12/2009 01:43:05 AM 1533 Views
I find Michel Houellebecq to be one of the most intriguing writers of our time AgentOrange - 01/12/2009 11:14:05 PM 1471 Views
And, in recent memory, Orwell was a first-rate writer. Tom - 02/12/2009 01:44:29 AM 1445 Views
wait! there's somebody "dirtier" than Piers Anthony or Philip Jose Farmer??? imlad - 03/12/2009 04:00:28 PM 1434 Views
PJF is dirty? rebelaessedai - 04/12/2009 12:16:12 AM 1307 Views
Nice post. Legolas - 02/12/2009 12:03:09 AM 1469 Views
Perhaps you're right. Tom - 02/12/2009 01:47:10 AM 1378 Views
In its entirety? No. Legolas - 02/12/2009 02:00:10 PM 1378 Views
I agree! Dragonsworn - 02/12/2009 12:17:10 AM 1659 Views
Thank you! Tom - 02/12/2009 01:50:22 AM 1316 Views
I guess I'll break my silence after almost a month and a half... Larry - 02/12/2009 12:23:07 AM 1484 Views
Popcorn? Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:31:44 AM 1421 Views
Yes Larry - 02/12/2009 12:39:10 AM 1461 Views
Lovecraft? Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:51:55 AM 1437 Views
Re-read what I said Larry - 02/12/2009 12:55:08 AM 1493 Views
aahh Camilla - 02/12/2009 09:26:40 AM 1371 Views
I'm glad I could drive you from your Carthusian retreat, Larry Tom - 02/12/2009 01:58:49 AM 1409 Views
It won't last for long - have too many things still to deal with in my life Larry - 02/12/2009 02:36:15 AM 1429 Views
That's too bad. I'll have to learn monasterial sign language to continue a dialogue. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:49:01 AM 1350 Views
Well, I understand two out of those three languages Larry - 02/12/2009 03:56:00 AM 1366 Views
Larry, please tell me you weren't... imlad - 03/12/2009 04:33:32 PM 1237 Views
I concur Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:27:13 AM 1355 Views
I like your framing of the issue (and Shannara is the Taco Bell of writing). Tom - 02/12/2009 02:03:51 AM 1428 Views
Thank you Camilla - 02/12/2009 09:30:42 AM 1366 Views
more like the mom&pop greasy-spoon diner of writing *NM* imlad - 03/12/2009 05:00:21 PM 658 Views
I'm going to put this in my sig, if you don't mind. Ghavrel - 02/12/2009 03:31:13 AM 1411 Views
hehehe Camilla - 02/12/2009 09:31:28 AM 1292 Views
Am i the only one who reads books for fun? Wibble - 02/12/2009 12:33:52 AM 1453 Views
There isn't necessarily a contradiction Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:38:43 AM 1448 Views
I certainly didn't read The Lost Symbol for ANY cultural, intellectual or edifying reason. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:05:45 AM 1378 Views
it didn't come across that way imlad - 03/12/2009 05:15:36 PM 1375 Views
Of course not. Personally, I don't touch anything other than mind candy when I'm in school, Ghavrel - 02/12/2009 03:29:23 AM 1379 Views
one of the things that is important to me in books/shows imlad - 03/12/2009 05:20:29 PM 1289 Views
We agree! Camilla - 03/12/2009 08:03:00 PM 1360 Views
WoT has decent characterization, though a little overwrought. Harrington... not so much. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 04:26:43 AM 1555 Views
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a science fiction/fantasy movie. Aeryn - 02/12/2009 12:54:08 AM 1432 Views
i was gonna point that out. thnks. *NM* imlad - 02/12/2009 01:13:47 AM 616 Views
Reading only speculative literature is limiting and monotonous. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:09:42 AM 1456 Views
I was going to say exactly that about "real" literature: monotonous and limiting. Aeryn - 02/12/2009 01:57:49 PM 1404 Views
I think his point was that only SF/F wasn't good food. Rebekah - 02/12/2009 02:15:29 PM 1372 Views
I would not disagree with you if you said that. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:27:08 PM 1308 Views
Most non-speculative fiction is fluff as well though. Werthead - 03/12/2009 05:38:32 PM 1286 Views
hear hear!! I agree totally wert-man imlad - 03/12/2009 07:20:09 PM 1377 Views
Which brings us back to my point. Camilla - 03/12/2009 08:04:24 PM 1407 Views
I would like to see the study and statistics that produced this answer. Werthead - 04/12/2009 05:24:02 PM 1306 Views
Re: I would like to see the study and statistics that produced this answer. Camilla - 04/12/2009 10:42:33 PM 1336 Views
Actually, it is a film that does not fit neatly into one category Camilla - 02/12/2009 11:16:20 AM 1412 Views
Science Fiction is the most PERTINANT form of fiction in the world today imlad - 02/12/2009 12:57:19 AM 1414 Views
don't get me wrong imlad - 02/12/2009 01:28:08 AM 1386 Views
"Pertinent", not "Pertinant". If it weren't in all caps I'd have ignored it this time. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:13:36 AM 1409 Views
SF&F and 'real literature' are not mutually exclusive Werthead - 02/12/2009 01:19:05 AM 1375 Views
No, they are not Tom - 02/12/2009 02:18:53 AM 1350 Views
This line is a load of bull bme - 03/12/2009 02:39:53 PM 1488 Views
So why don't we occasionally focus on "real" books that are technically spec fiction? nossy - 02/12/2009 01:25:04 AM 1316 Views
Why must we limit our focus in that way? Tom - 02/12/2009 02:20:11 AM 1331 Views
I don't see it as limiting or forcing. nossy - 02/12/2009 03:16:07 AM 1342 Views
"Elite club" or "elitist clique"? Tom - 02/12/2009 03:52:11 AM 1309 Views
Either way, I want in. *NM* Camilla - 02/12/2009 11:33:52 AM 715 Views
Elite club is how we midwestern rednecks refer to Elitist Clique. *chews on a piece of hay* nossy - 02/12/2009 02:52:01 PM 1503 Views
I was born in the Midwest. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:01:36 PM 1360 Views
I know. nossy - 02/12/2009 03:12:05 PM 1335 Views
Green Acres in reverse, eh? Tom - 02/12/2009 03:38:09 PM 1354 Views
lmao Lupine - 02/12/2009 06:21:17 PM 1521 Views
*piledrivers you* nossy - 02/12/2009 06:28:02 PM 1298 Views
...! Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:17:57 PM 1300 Views
Admit it. You know what I'm talking about. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:29:31 PM 1365 Views
Re: Admit it. You know what I'm talking about. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:31:26 PM 1308 Views
Vermont isn't in the Midwest. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:39:36 PM 1304 Views
Re: Vermont isn't in the Midwest. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:42:47 PM 1334 Views
Huh! I really didn't think of you as being a masochist. Vodalus - 02/12/2009 01:51:55 AM 1341 Views
Thank you! Tom - 02/12/2009 02:21:00 AM 1223 Views
Shitstorm! Vodalus - 02/12/2009 03:06:59 AM 1303 Views
Heh heh heh. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:45:40 AM 1337 Views
Read what you like to read. Craig - 02/12/2009 04:18:53 AM 1462 Views
I'll super size you. Fine. *NM* Tom - 02/12/2009 04:32:58 AM 664 Views
Oh noes! I'm getting word-fat! Craig - 02/12/2009 04:59:05 AM 1352 Views
I seem to have struck a nerve. Tom - 02/12/2009 05:20:27 AM 1362 Views
Apparently not the nerve you think, though. Craig - 02/12/2009 06:42:02 AM 1438 Views
Intellectual achievement isn't a static measure. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:13:10 PM 1389 Views
Re: Intellectual achievement isn't a static measure. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:26:59 PM 1364 Views
Agreed. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:30:50 PM 1290 Views
Re: Agreed. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:32:06 PM 1295 Views
Re: Intellectual achievement isn't a static measure. Craig - 02/12/2009 09:40:28 PM 1437 Views
I really did get under your skin Tom - 02/12/2009 09:58:18 PM 1281 Views
Craig - 02/12/2009 10:06:46 PM 1294 Views
Tom as much as you raise some great points, you are being a condescending ass. lord-of-shadow - 03/12/2009 04:26:27 AM 1348 Views
You're entitled to your opinion. I don't care. Tom - 03/12/2009 04:51:18 AM 1320 Views
I keep replying. It's like a sickness. Craig - 03/12/2009 05:15:28 AM 1331 Views
Your subject line reinforces my opinion. Tom - 03/12/2009 05:31:50 AM 1241 Views
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room. *NM* Ghavrel - 03/12/2009 07:21:05 AM 653 Views
LOL! rebelaessedai - 04/12/2009 12:21:36 AM 1304 Views
See, you just proved my point. Tom - 04/12/2009 12:39:59 AM 1345 Views
Hm. Lupine - 02/12/2009 06:58:56 AM 1951 Views
Re-read my exact point. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:18:20 PM 1288 Views
No. Some kind of reading is indeed essential. Lupine - 02/12/2009 02:28:22 PM 1425 Views
There may have been an assumption about literature due to the reason for the post. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:37:47 PM 1366 Views
Somehow I get the feeling that this post hasn't caused quite as much controversy Lupine - 02/12/2009 06:53:18 AM 1459 Views
As I see it... Camilla - 02/12/2009 11:38:07 AM 1332 Views
Yep. Lupine - 02/12/2009 02:18:22 PM 1483 Views
Re: Yep. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:35:38 PM 1347 Views
Euripides was poorly received, initially. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:57:58 PM 1264 Views
Re: Euripides was poorly received, initially. Camilla - 02/12/2009 04:00:35 PM 1288 Views
I know. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:18:16 PM 1351 Views
Re: I know. Camilla - 02/12/2009 04:23:14 PM 1294 Views
That is why he's so good, in my opinion. Lupine - 02/12/2009 06:15:45 PM 1479 Views
I wasn't looking to generate controversy Tom - 02/12/2009 02:19:13 PM 1473 Views
Well... then I'm going to have to agree with Craig a bit. Lupine - 02/12/2009 02:32:59 PM 1452 Views
Well, I was being somewhat denigrating. "Unnecessarily" or not is a matter of debate. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:40:29 PM 1283 Views
Well, it's only "unnecessary" if you don't want people to be turned off of your message immediately. *NM* Craig - 02/12/2009 09:42:46 PM 644 Views
Judging from the responses, most people weren't turned off immediately. Tom - 02/12/2009 09:59:35 PM 1270 Views
All reading of fiction is a diversion by the very nature of the activity. Jacob - 02/12/2009 03:43:05 PM 1332 Views
Diversion from direct action, yes. Diversion from reality, no. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:15:48 PM 1293 Views
I maintain that all acts of reading fiction are a diversion from reality/ the realistic Jacob - 02/12/2009 05:43:16 PM 1321 Views
It seems a regressive argument to me. Tom - 03/12/2009 01:18:02 AM 1268 Views
You're playing a game. Jacob - 03/12/2009 03:40:14 PM 1363 Views
I like your response. *NM* Aeryn - 03/12/2009 05:37:09 PM 636 Views
I fundamentally agree with much of what you're saying, but there is a distinction. Tom - 03/12/2009 06:44:02 PM 1360 Views
Oh I concur on that distinction. Jacob - 04/12/2009 09:06:34 PM 1382 Views
Spec fic is perhaps at it's best in autocracies? Ouranid - 02/12/2009 04:10:56 PM 1247 Views
Bulgakov Camilla - 02/12/2009 04:25:17 PM 1362 Views
I've only read the first chapter of M&M. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 04:36:09 PM 1323 Views
Re: I've only read the first chapter of M&M. Camilla - 02/12/2009 04:40:16 PM 1232 Views
Not the greatest Tolkien scholar, me. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 05:17:31 PM 1308 Views
Re: Not the greatest Tolkien scholar, me. Camilla - 02/12/2009 05:40:16 PM 1336 Views
I suppose. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 06:26:30 PM 1328 Views
Re: I suppose. Camilla - 02/12/2009 07:25:26 PM 1344 Views
Well, I don't hold escapism in such low esteem *NM* Ouranid - 02/12/2009 07:56:13 PM 655 Views
That is what I mean Camilla - 02/12/2009 08:36:02 PM 1275 Views
This was something I was exploring earlier. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:34:41 PM 1391 Views
Funny thing about the hivemind antagonist. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 05:13:30 PM 1316 Views
I didn't see the zombies reading speculative fiction Tom - 02/12/2009 05:30:26 PM 1423 Views
Oh, they prefer Clive Cussler. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 06:23:42 PM 1390 Views
There's an interesting book in Russian that might be translated somewhere. Tom - 02/12/2009 10:02:48 PM 1396 Views
i think it comes more down to quality than genre. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2009 04:55:20 PM 1358 Views
I disagree with the ultimate conclusion but agree with many of your points. Tom - 02/12/2009 05:43:04 PM 1322 Views
the illiad is a classic LadyLorraine - 02/12/2009 06:35:24 PM 1338 Views
There's only one "L" in Iliad Tom - 02/12/2009 08:18:38 PM 1314 Views
Is there a safe answer to that question? *NM* LadyLorraine - 02/12/2009 10:33:21 PM 709 Views
Maybe not. *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 12:59:09 AM 657 Views
It took me a few minutes to agree Beqi - 02/12/2009 07:04:59 PM 1322 Views
Well, I'm glad if you got something out of the post! Tom - 02/12/2009 09:13:26 PM 1324 Views
Re: Well, I'm glad if you got something out of the post! Camilla - 02/12/2009 09:20:49 PM 1294 Views
I don't know. I've only read about 30 pages so far. *NM* Tom - 02/12/2009 10:05:54 PM 719 Views
Many people have mentioned that there's quite a bit of good sff lit out there and you seem to agree. Cockatiel of Doom - 02/12/2009 07:33:42 PM 1426 Views
Hmmm Camilla - 02/12/2009 08:40:53 PM 1294 Views
Re: Hmmm Cockatiel of Doom - 02/12/2009 10:48:02 PM 1318 Views
The website is called "Read and Find Out". It doesn't specify what we're supposed to read. Rebekah - 02/12/2009 08:42:19 PM 1398 Views
Anti the idea ? I see no evidence for this. AgentOrange - 02/12/2009 09:50:37 PM 1349 Views
Heh Rebekah - 02/12/2009 09:56:30 PM 1346 Views
What do you mean ? Almost all the repliers agree with Tom AgentOrange - 03/12/2009 11:01:08 AM 1316 Views
Re: What do you mean ? Almost all the repliers agree with Tom Camilla - 03/12/2009 11:10:35 AM 1360 Views
I see. You don't read announcements. Rebekah - 03/12/2009 11:12:04 AM 1298 Views
No, but it does bill itself as science fiction/fantasy. Cockatiel of Doom - 02/12/2009 10:51:41 PM 1463 Views
Yes. Rebekah - 03/12/2009 12:01:30 AM 1404 Views
I think Rebekah and Camilla put it well. Tom - 02/12/2009 10:05:24 PM 1430 Views
I think they make good points, as I said above. Cockatiel of Doom - 02/12/2009 10:56:55 PM 1284 Views
I agree with in principle random thoughts - 02/12/2009 11:22:19 PM 1251 Views
Certainly. People are free to skip any discussion. Tom - 03/12/2009 01:01:40 AM 1445 Views
I have a few objections. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/12/2009 12:24:43 AM 1363 Views
where else should we talk about it? LadyLorraine - 03/12/2009 12:37:26 AM 1351 Views
There's a difference between having threads about it and focusing the official book club on it. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/12/2009 12:40:53 AM 1413 Views
This is the Sci-Fi and Fantasy Board for site optimization purposes. Tom - 03/12/2009 01:07:39 AM 14334 Views
random thoughts stole my subject line Chas - 03/12/2009 01:56:07 AM 1387 Views
I think I could agree with a "comfort food" analogy Tom - 03/12/2009 02:12:01 AM 1373 Views
Re: I think I could agree with a "comfort food" analogy Chas - 03/12/2009 02:38:17 AM 1424 Views
That's it Ouranid - 03/12/2009 04:02:28 AM 1471 Views
Question: is it really science fiction without one of the following: Tom - 03/12/2009 05:13:21 AM 1343 Views
Certainly Ouranid - 03/12/2009 06:13:38 AM 1420 Views
technically speaking, fantasy is classed as a sub heading under science fiction. *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/12/2009 02:51:12 PM 573 Views
According to whom? *NM* Camilla - 03/12/2009 03:55:45 PM 700 Views
Yeah. What she asked! *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 09:23:55 PM 687 Views
Yes, it is but actually... Ellestra - 03/12/2009 09:31:44 PM 1340 Views
Eternal Sunshine doesn't have a mad scientist. Tom - 03/12/2009 10:09:01 PM 1277 Views
Really? Ellestra - 04/12/2009 07:01:42 PM 1325 Views
But Dan Brown rocks da house!!! *NM* everynametaken - 03/12/2009 02:16:47 AM 675 Views
*pumps fist* Give it up for Dan Brown! *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 03:58:23 AM 704 Views
That's Dan "booyah" Brown!!! Booyah!!! *NM* everynametaken - 04/12/2009 02:00:56 AM 679 Views
another thing wrong with your argument imlad - 03/12/2009 03:30:19 PM 1373 Views
Absolutely not. And, as I said before, there's only one "L" in Iliad. Tom - 03/12/2009 06:53:35 PM 1157 Views
sorry about my atrocious spelling (including the one on pertinent) imlad - 03/12/2009 07:14:59 PM 1444 Views
No problem. On the substantive points: Tom - 03/12/2009 08:00:33 PM 1383 Views
more importantly, which I think it being lost in all this, Camilla - 03/12/2009 08:05:27 PM 1338 Views
I'm not reading the Iliad again, once was enough random thoughts - 04/12/2009 12:19:07 PM 1308 Views
is it just me, or is this now the largest post/thread yet on RAFO.com??? 168 replies so far! *NM* imlad - 03/12/2009 05:03:25 PM 617 Views
Well, for once we're discussing books...and their value. *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 06:54:01 PM 694 Views
Congratulations on the replies count Ellestra - 03/12/2009 09:30:41 PM 1443 Views
That was a well-thought out response, but I still disagree. Tom - 03/12/2009 10:50:29 PM 1368 Views
Re: That was a well-thought out response, but I still disagree. Ellestra - 04/12/2009 07:44:56 PM 1413 Views
But the objective truth of a setting can be measured. Tom - 04/12/2009 10:37:10 PM 1311 Views
But does it make any difference in the objective value of the book? Ellestra - 06/12/2009 09:35:59 AM 1465 Views
YES. Tom - 06/12/2009 03:34:17 PM 1258 Views
NO Ellestra - 07/12/2009 08:40:33 PM 1380 Views
Re: That was a well-thought out response, but I still disagree. AgentOrange - 04/12/2009 10:25:08 PM 1348 Views
Yes, it is worse with movies. Much worse, in fact. Tom - 04/12/2009 10:33:18 PM 1381 Views
Re: That was a well-thought out response, but I still disagree. Ellestra - 06/12/2009 09:36:11 AM 1341 Views
Maybe we're different, but I don't care for FX AgentOrange - 06/12/2009 01:37:53 PM 1322 Views
This is not about the personal taste Ellestra - 07/12/2009 08:50:34 PM 1369 Views
I've obviously missed the show here... rebelaessedai - 04/12/2009 12:14:30 AM 1291 Views
I'm not sure that's right. This thing just keeps growing. Tom - 04/12/2009 12:46:24 AM 1415 Views
What, your penis? rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:40:09 AM 1350 Views
Don't you know it! Tom - 06/12/2009 03:28:16 PM 1213 Views
You talk the talk, that's for sure. rebelaessedai - 07/12/2009 08:14:41 PM 1361 Views
Hate to break it to you... Craig - 07/12/2009 09:54:24 PM 1395 Views
I thought you were gonna tell me... rebelaessedai - 08/12/2009 03:07:54 PM 1462 Views
Metaphor versus literalism Werthead - 04/12/2009 05:42:03 PM 1375 Views
Metaphor divorced from the reality runs risks, however. Tom - 04/12/2009 10:25:47 PM 1286 Views
Honestly, the moral can always be dismissed as inapplicable if you want to dismiss it. Legolas - 05/12/2009 12:16:39 AM 1296 Views
While that's true, it's much harder to just dismiss Mockingbird. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:57:42 AM 1284 Views
Then why read fiction at all? It's all a diversion. Werthead - 05/12/2009 04:16:06 PM 1295 Views
I think people should read non-fiction, and The Nine Hundred Days is an excellent book. Tom - 05/12/2009 04:41:50 PM 1345 Views
aha. but. Camilla - 07/12/2009 03:56:48 PM 1520 Views
Quoting Nietzsche is really hitting below the belt. Tom - 07/12/2009 09:12:34 PM 1460 Views
It is good I was only paraphrasing, then Camilla - 08/12/2009 10:44:14 AM 1346 Views
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