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Re: That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise. DomA Send a noteboard - 11/01/2010 06:22:24 PM
He probably just read the book as a child. I've noticed he's nostalgic like that.


Unlike the Musketeers he found it unsufferable as a kid, could only finish it by constantly skipping ahead.

His fascination with the novel came after he was commissionned to abridge it and realised a hundred pages in that it just didn't work. He investigated why it didn't work, and the result was that essay in "Supermen".

I don't think (I could be mistaken) it's Eco himself but rather another commentator, quoting Eco's essay who said that getting frustrated at the lengths and redundancies and giving yourself the permission/pleasure to skip parts is part of the experience of reading Monte Cristo.

I personally enjoyed Monte Cristo when I reread it a few years ago (though much like Eco does in the end. And in my case nostalgia played a part, that and wanting to understand why I enjoy books like that - or WOT - despite objectively finding very little literary quality to them). I agree it's not a very good choice for a book club, though. It's the sort of book about which you can sum up your thoughts in a few sentences at most, not the sort that spark much discussion.

Paradoxically given its literary quality, it's the sort of novel that spark mostly platitudes from everyone except a few scholars, like Schopp (a French Dumas scholar) or Eco. It's actually more interesting to comment what on they have to say about Monte Cristo than comment on the book itself.
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The Count of Monte Cristo was a terrible choice for a book discussion. - 09/01/2010 07:41:01 PM 1455 Views
Hey, now (copy/paste) - 09/01/2010 07:48:56 PM 1000 Views
People should think about these things before recommending books. - 09/01/2010 08:13:10 PM 1027 Views
Which is why I voted for Bulgakov's M & M. - 09/01/2010 10:56:00 PM 1089 Views
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Are you nuts!!?? - 10/01/2010 08:37:47 AM 1100 Views
I wanted to do that too. - 10/01/2010 01:24:42 AM 851 Views
It's bloody marvellous. *NM* - 10/01/2010 08:05:47 AM 412 Views
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Ooh...I'd love to hear them!!! What did Eco say to trash Dumas? *NM* - 10/01/2010 01:19:43 AM 356 Views
Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen - 10/01/2010 01:39:28 AM 1012 Views
I love it. Strangely enough, though, he wrote an introduction to the book. - 10/01/2010 01:54:24 AM 874 Views
Not really strange as Eco has long been fascinated by this book - 11/01/2010 05:01:56 PM 906 Views
Did he mention it in his book on ugliness? - 11/01/2010 05:12:55 PM 787 Views
Re: Did he mention it in his book on ugliness? - 11/01/2010 05:52:29 PM 1111 Views
I like Eco's distinction between light fiction and literature. - 12/01/2010 04:16:38 PM 1000 Views
Re: Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen - 11/01/2010 03:49:15 PM 994 Views
That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise. - 11/01/2010 05:12:25 PM 822 Views
Re: That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise. - 11/01/2010 06:22:24 PM 1095 Views
I agree that abridging it would not work well. - 12/01/2010 04:06:26 PM 965 Views
In which case... - 12/01/2010 05:22:34 PM 774 Views
Yes - 13/01/2010 07:56:08 PM 1067 Views
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I think there are plenty of things that can be discussed. - 09/01/2010 10:00:06 PM 1151 Views
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Depends on who you are, one would imagine. - 10/01/2010 08:16:11 AM 1071 Views
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Re: "Omigod you read light fantasy?" - 18/01/2010 10:04:41 PM 1153 Views
Har. *NM* - 18/01/2010 10:03:31 PM 511 Views
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A kid's book of adventure doesn't translate into a good book club discussion. - 10/01/2010 01:21:11 AM 823 Views
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I am pleased to be referenced in a cross-board discussion. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:29:45 PM 482 Views

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