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Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM
Women can only marry men, and men can only marry women. There is no gender equality there. Judge Walker noted this specifically in his decision, making the observation that in the case of marriage, discrimination by sexual orientation is equivalent to discrimination by sex.

I'll also note that your inevitable response to this, that marriage is not about two consenting individuals choosing to marry each other but in fact relies on specific gender roles, is both antiquated and unreasonably limiting to personal liberty. This is a purely conventional argument, so let's note up front that appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy.
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Let's ban all Christian Marriage. - 07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM 1680 Views
Nice satire, but it raises another point for me. - 07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM 1070 Views
One small problem... - 07/08/2010 08:02:34 AM 1094 Views
Re tax. - 07/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 1137 Views
That seems sensible to me. - 09/08/2010 08:13:26 PM 1019 Views
Not sure what you mean by "demoted." - 07/08/2010 03:50:02 PM 1161 Views
Nice. *NM* - 07/08/2010 08:58:20 AM 635 Views
That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people. - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM 1336 Views
Hey, look! There was a point over there! - 07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM 1128 Views
Who else should make those decisions? - 07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM 1086 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM 1023 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM 1171 Views
You'd defend this idiot? *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:40:34 AM 521 Views
Indeed - 08/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 1104 Views
I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering. - 08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM 1113 Views
And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged - 08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM 1015 Views
Um, ok. *NM* - 10/08/2010 12:48:19 AM 521 Views
*Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM 978 Views
I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM 557 Views
Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM 1076 Views
Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM 1034 Views
Gah! You did that on purpose! - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM 993 Views
whoops *NM* - 09/08/2010 02:22:49 AM 477 Views
Re: *Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM 1027 Views
This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about. - 08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM 972 Views
You cannot be that stupid. - 11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM 1252 Views
Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM 1358 Views
all you need is enough support to pass an amendment - 08/08/2010 02:46:08 PM 957 Views
A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too - 08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM 1000 Views
And what is wrong with polygamy? *NM* - 09/08/2010 10:36:53 AM 527 Views
Did I say there was anything? - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM 1115 Views
Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad. - 09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM 1061 Views
Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM 987 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM 974 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM 1085 Views
Not really - 09/08/2010 01:20:46 PM 952 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 01:27:04 PM 1080 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 02:14:43 PM 947 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 03:06:31 PM 1126 Views
Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives. - 11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM 1114 Views
... - 11/08/2010 03:22:50 PM 1021 Views
Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 09/08/2010 06:13:30 PM 1130 Views
Re: Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 10/08/2010 01:24:06 AM 940 Views
Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 04:09:43 PM 1061 Views
Re: Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 06:12:39 PM 939 Views
Great post Danny - 09/08/2010 08:22:27 PM 822 Views
It should be noted again... - 09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM 1107 Views
and how is it not a right? - 09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM 987 Views
My definition of rights... - 09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM 1105 Views
mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right. - 10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM 871 Views
+1 - 10/08/2010 03:11:22 AM 1156 Views
Article 16 probably not a great example - 10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM 961 Views
You could just as easily move the emphasis... - 10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM 1104 Views
If we need a more specific resolution... - 10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM 1287 Views
It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though. - 10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM 982 Views
It also doesn't say they can - 10/08/2010 04:41:18 AM 971 Views
You're missing the point. It's not about gay marriage. - 10/08/2010 11:20:59 AM 985 Views
No, I got that, I'm pointing out how it does so - 10/08/2010 01:47:00 PM 988 Views
To clarify for you - 10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM 957 Views
The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body... - 10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM 1348 Views
What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless.... - 10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM 910 Views
and the Constitution dictates nothing about marriage. *NM* - 10/08/2010 11:46:24 PM 503 Views
That means it is up to the people. And they say "No." *NM* - 11/08/2010 03:13:12 PM 510 Views
No, but it does dictate things about rights and discrimination - 12/08/2010 03:48:02 PM 1152 Views
The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right. - 10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM 1086 Views
Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction... - 10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM 1149 Views
I agree - 10/08/2010 06:11:19 PM 842 Views
Yeah but this can't be used to prove that it IS a right... - 10/08/2010 07:30:57 PM 1217 Views
Note it all you want... - 10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 840 Views
The best one yet. - 10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM 1097 Views
Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM 956 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM 1069 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM 963 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM 1104 Views
Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM 1080 Views
Re: Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:09:23 PM 1031 Views

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