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Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM
Women can only marry men, and men can only marry women. There is no gender equality there. Judge Walker noted this specifically in his decision, making the observation that in the case of marriage, discrimination by sexual orientation is equivalent to discrimination by sex.

I'll also note that your inevitable response to this, that marriage is not about two consenting individuals choosing to marry each other but in fact relies on specific gender roles, is both antiquated and unreasonably limiting to personal liberty. This is a purely conventional argument, so let's note up front that appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy.
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Let's ban all Christian Marriage. - 07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM 1848 Views
Nice satire, but it raises another point for me. - 07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM 1226 Views
One small problem... - 07/08/2010 08:02:34 AM 1226 Views
Re tax. - 07/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 1279 Views
That seems sensible to me. - 09/08/2010 08:13:26 PM 1171 Views
Not sure what you mean by "demoted." - 07/08/2010 03:50:02 PM 1294 Views
Nice. *NM* - 07/08/2010 08:58:20 AM 717 Views
That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people. - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM 1483 Views
Hey, look! There was a point over there! - 07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM 1337 Views
Who else should make those decisions? - 07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM 1257 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM 1155 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM 1318 Views
You'd defend this idiot? *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:40:34 AM 593 Views
Indeed - 08/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 1252 Views
I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering. - 08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM 1256 Views
And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged - 08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM 1162 Views
Um, ok. *NM* - 10/08/2010 12:48:19 AM 600 Views
*Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM 1128 Views
I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM 621 Views
Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM 1247 Views
Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM 1182 Views
Gah! You did that on purpose! - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM 1126 Views
whoops *NM* - 09/08/2010 02:22:49 AM 555 Views
Re: *Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM 1181 Views
This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about. - 08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM 1134 Views
You cannot be that stupid. - 11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM 1394 Views
Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM 1519 Views
all you need is enough support to pass an amendment - 08/08/2010 02:46:08 PM 1118 Views
A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too - 08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM 1186 Views
And what is wrong with polygamy? *NM* - 09/08/2010 10:36:53 AM 614 Views
Did I say there was anything? - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM 1260 Views
Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad. - 09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM 1209 Views
Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM 1144 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM 1120 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM 1233 Views
Not really - 09/08/2010 01:20:46 PM 1090 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 01:27:04 PM 1210 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 02:14:43 PM 1083 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 03:06:31 PM 1270 Views
Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives. - 11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM 1285 Views
... - 11/08/2010 03:22:50 PM 1155 Views
Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 09/08/2010 06:13:30 PM 1277 Views
Re: Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 10/08/2010 01:24:06 AM 1082 Views
Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 04:09:43 PM 1204 Views
Re: Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 06:12:39 PM 1123 Views
Great post Danny - 09/08/2010 08:22:27 PM 977 Views
It should be noted again... - 09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM 1241 Views
and how is it not a right? - 09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM 1153 Views
My definition of rights... - 09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM 1240 Views
mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right. - 10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM 1005 Views
+1 - 10/08/2010 03:11:22 AM 1298 Views
Article 16 probably not a great example - 10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM 1106 Views
You could just as easily move the emphasis... - 10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM 1264 Views
If we need a more specific resolution... - 10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM 1445 Views
It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though. - 10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM 1119 Views
It also doesn't say they can - 10/08/2010 04:41:18 AM 1117 Views
You're missing the point. It's not about gay marriage. - 10/08/2010 11:20:59 AM 1153 Views
No, I got that, I'm pointing out how it does so - 10/08/2010 01:47:00 PM 1136 Views
To clarify for you - 10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM 1106 Views
The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body... - 10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM 1505 Views
What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless.... - 10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM 1070 Views
and the Constitution dictates nothing about marriage. *NM* - 10/08/2010 11:46:24 PM 576 Views
That means it is up to the people. And they say "No." *NM* - 11/08/2010 03:13:12 PM 587 Views
No, but it does dictate things about rights and discrimination - 12/08/2010 03:48:02 PM 1297 Views
The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right. - 10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM 1225 Views
Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction... - 10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM 1285 Views
I agree - 10/08/2010 06:11:19 PM 983 Views
Yeah but this can't be used to prove that it IS a right... - 10/08/2010 07:30:57 PM 1439 Views
Note it all you want... - 10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 997 Views
The best one yet. - 10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM 1241 Views
Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM 1109 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM 1204 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM 1120 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM 1249 Views
Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM 1226 Views
Re: Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:09:23 PM 1167 Views

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