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Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM
Women can only marry men, and men can only marry women. There is no gender equality there. Judge Walker noted this specifically in his decision, making the observation that in the case of marriage, discrimination by sexual orientation is equivalent to discrimination by sex.

I'll also note that your inevitable response to this, that marriage is not about two consenting individuals choosing to marry each other but in fact relies on specific gender roles, is both antiquated and unreasonably limiting to personal liberty. This is a purely conventional argument, so let's note up front that appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy.
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Let's ban all Christian Marriage. - 07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM 1493 Views
Nice satire, but it raises another point for me. - 07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM 922 Views
One small problem... - 07/08/2010 08:02:34 AM 940 Views
Re tax. - 07/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 970 Views
That seems sensible to me. - 09/08/2010 08:13:26 PM 817 Views
Not sure what you mean by "demoted." - 07/08/2010 03:50:02 PM 975 Views
Nice. *NM* - 07/08/2010 08:58:20 AM 567 Views
That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people. - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM 1140 Views
Hey, look! There was a point over there! - 07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM 955 Views
Who else should make those decisions? - 07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM 898 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM 870 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM 1015 Views
You'd defend this idiot? *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:40:34 AM 452 Views
Indeed - 08/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 950 Views
I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering. - 08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM 940 Views
And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged - 08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM 853 Views
Um, ok. *NM* - 10/08/2010 12:48:19 AM 454 Views
*Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM 823 Views
I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM 483 Views
Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM 913 Views
Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM 876 Views
Gah! You did that on purpose! - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM 829 Views
whoops *NM* - 09/08/2010 02:22:49 AM 416 Views
Re: *Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM 868 Views
This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about. - 08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM 810 Views
You cannot be that stupid. - 11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM 1097 Views
Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM 1188 Views
all you need is enough support to pass an amendment - 08/08/2010 02:46:08 PM 813 Views
A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too - 08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM 839 Views
And what is wrong with polygamy? *NM* - 09/08/2010 10:36:53 AM 451 Views
Did I say there was anything? - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM 962 Views
Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad. - 09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM 883 Views
Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM 830 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM 812 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM 930 Views
Not really - 09/08/2010 01:20:46 PM 788 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 01:27:04 PM 912 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 02:14:43 PM 797 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 03:06:31 PM 945 Views
Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives. - 11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM 959 Views
... - 11/08/2010 03:22:50 PM 839 Views
Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 09/08/2010 06:13:30 PM 967 Views
Re: Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 10/08/2010 01:24:06 AM 787 Views
Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 04:09:43 PM 896 Views
Re: Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 06:12:39 PM 783 Views
Great post Danny - 09/08/2010 08:22:27 PM 648 Views
It should be noted again... - 09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM 937 Views
and how is it not a right? - 09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM 814 Views
My definition of rights... - 09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM 941 Views
mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right. - 10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM 715 Views
+1 - 10/08/2010 03:11:22 AM 994 Views
Article 16 probably not a great example - 10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM 814 Views
You could just as easily move the emphasis... - 10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM 929 Views
If we need a more specific resolution... - 10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM 1103 Views
It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though. - 10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM 808 Views
It also doesn't say they can - 10/08/2010 04:41:18 AM 813 Views
You're missing the point. It's not about gay marriage. - 10/08/2010 11:20:59 AM 793 Views
No, I got that, I'm pointing out how it does so - 10/08/2010 01:47:00 PM 825 Views
To clarify for you - 10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM 738 Views
The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body... - 10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM 1180 Views
What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless.... - 10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM 749 Views
and the Constitution dictates nothing about marriage. *NM* - 10/08/2010 11:46:24 PM 437 Views
That means it is up to the people. And they say "No." *NM* - 11/08/2010 03:13:12 PM 441 Views
No, but it does dictate things about rights and discrimination - 12/08/2010 03:48:02 PM 990 Views
The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right. - 10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM 886 Views
Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction... - 10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM 963 Views
I agree - 10/08/2010 06:11:19 PM 695 Views
Yeah but this can't be used to prove that it IS a right... - 10/08/2010 07:30:57 PM 1035 Views
Note it all you want... - 10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 682 Views
The best one yet. - 10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM 928 Views
Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM 807 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM 911 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM 793 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM 914 Views
Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM 891 Views

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