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Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM
Women can only marry men, and men can only marry women. There is no gender equality there. Judge Walker noted this specifically in his decision, making the observation that in the case of marriage, discrimination by sexual orientation is equivalent to discrimination by sex.

I'll also note that your inevitable response to this, that marriage is not about two consenting individuals choosing to marry each other but in fact relies on specific gender roles, is both antiquated and unreasonably limiting to personal liberty. This is a purely conventional argument, so let's note up front that appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy.
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Let's ban all Christian Marriage. - 07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM 1743 Views
Nice satire, but it raises another point for me. - 07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM 1135 Views
One small problem... - 07/08/2010 08:02:34 AM 1149 Views
Re tax. - 07/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 1187 Views
That seems sensible to me. - 09/08/2010 08:13:26 PM 1085 Views
Not sure what you mean by "demoted." - 07/08/2010 03:50:02 PM 1211 Views
Nice. *NM* - 07/08/2010 08:58:20 AM 658 Views
That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people. - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM 1395 Views
Hey, look! There was a point over there! - 07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM 1212 Views
Who else should make those decisions? - 07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM 1150 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM 1068 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM 1231 Views
You'd defend this idiot? *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:40:34 AM 546 Views
Indeed - 08/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 1164 Views
I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering. - 08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM 1172 Views
And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged - 08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM 1068 Views
Um, ok. *NM* - 10/08/2010 12:48:19 AM 546 Views
*Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM 1045 Views
I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM 584 Views
Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM 1134 Views
Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM 1087 Views
Gah! You did that on purpose! - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM 1043 Views
whoops *NM* - 09/08/2010 02:22:49 AM 502 Views
Re: *Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM 1083 Views
This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about. - 08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM 1023 Views
You cannot be that stupid. - 11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM 1308 Views
Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM 1413 Views
all you need is enough support to pass an amendment - 08/08/2010 02:46:08 PM 1011 Views
A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too - 08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM 1052 Views
And what is wrong with polygamy? *NM* - 09/08/2010 10:36:53 AM 553 Views
Did I say there was anything? - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM 1171 Views
Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad. - 09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM 1118 Views
Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM 1043 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM 1034 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM 1146 Views
Not really - 09/08/2010 01:20:46 PM 1011 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 01:27:04 PM 1134 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 02:14:43 PM 1003 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 03:06:31 PM 1180 Views
Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives. - 11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM 1171 Views
... - 11/08/2010 03:22:50 PM 1069 Views
Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 09/08/2010 06:13:30 PM 1184 Views
Re: Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 10/08/2010 01:24:06 AM 989 Views
Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 04:09:43 PM 1112 Views
Re: Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 06:12:39 PM 1001 Views
Great post Danny - 09/08/2010 08:22:27 PM 875 Views
It should be noted again... - 09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM 1156 Views
and how is it not a right? - 09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM 1048 Views
My definition of rights... - 09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM 1155 Views
mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right. - 10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM 918 Views
+1 - 10/08/2010 03:11:22 AM 1213 Views
Article 16 probably not a great example - 10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM 1016 Views
You could just as easily move the emphasis... - 10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM 1157 Views
If we need a more specific resolution... - 10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM 1346 Views
It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though. - 10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM 1029 Views
It also doesn't say they can - 10/08/2010 04:41:18 AM 1034 Views
You're missing the point. It's not about gay marriage. - 10/08/2010 11:20:59 AM 1045 Views
No, I got that, I'm pointing out how it does so - 10/08/2010 01:47:00 PM 1046 Views
To clarify for you - 10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM 1026 Views
The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body... - 10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM 1403 Views
What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless.... - 10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM 965 Views
and the Constitution dictates nothing about marriage. *NM* - 10/08/2010 11:46:24 PM 526 Views
That means it is up to the people. And they say "No." *NM* - 11/08/2010 03:13:12 PM 535 Views
No, but it does dictate things about rights and discrimination - 12/08/2010 03:48:02 PM 1211 Views
The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right. - 10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM 1139 Views
Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction... - 10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM 1199 Views
I agree - 10/08/2010 06:11:19 PM 897 Views
Yeah but this can't be used to prove that it IS a right... - 10/08/2010 07:30:57 PM 1276 Views
Note it all you want... - 10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 893 Views
The best one yet. - 10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM 1152 Views
Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM 1012 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM 1126 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM 1032 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM 1162 Views
Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM 1131 Views
Re: Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:09:23 PM 1081 Views

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