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Poor Aeryn Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 12/01/2011 05:29:47 PM
You do not have to have a higher powered career to be make an impact on the world. A lot of SAHM do volunteer work or help out at their church. If their marriage is a true partnership they usually play a vital role in what their spouse accomplishes. I think we down play how important all of the little stuff that is accomplished by competent people who care matters.


Edited what she said out and still has people arguing with her

Sorry.
If you are from Betelgeuse, please have one of your Earth friends read what I've written before you respond. Or try concentrating harder.

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Looks like the feminist movement wasn't as successful as it appears random thoughts - 11/01/2011 06:21:01 PM 2510 Views
I think you're extrapolating a bit too much beetnemesis - 11/01/2011 06:45:38 PM 1579 Views
The aricle does mention that women feel pressured to work when they did not want to random thoughts - 11/01/2011 06:48:47 PM 1555 Views
I don't trust the figures. Rebekah - 11/01/2011 06:50:24 PM 1558 Views
One assumes the latter, to the extent that "same job with same experience" can be defined. *NM* Legolas - 12/01/2011 07:10:13 PM 820 Views
One might assume that, but it's not necessarily so. Rebekah - 12/01/2011 08:58:14 PM 1536 Views
While I don't 100% agree with the article, some feminists annoy me no end. Rebekah - 11/01/2011 06:47:03 PM 1635 Views
My wife told me just this weekend I need to stop pressuring her to have a career random thoughts - 11/01/2011 06:52:11 PM 1569 Views
Re: My wife told me just this weekend I need to stop pressuring her to have a career Rebekah - 11/01/2011 09:35:43 PM 1580 Views
Re: My wife told me just this weekend I need to stop pressuring her to have a career Avendesora - 12/01/2011 01:36:14 AM 1569 Views
Yeah, got one like that, too. Joel - 12/01/2011 02:17:17 AM 1563 Views
yeah prett much anything gross that isn't in a diaper is my job random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:12:11 AM 1525 Views
It's not just that choice though. Sareitha Sedai - 11/01/2011 07:12:48 PM 1644 Views
It feels more hypocritical coming from feminists than "traditionalists". *NM* Rebekah - 11/01/2011 07:17:24 PM 859 Views
For you maybe. Sareitha Sedai - 11/01/2011 07:27:52 PM 1562 Views
there is definitely some SAHM snobbery random thoughts - 11/01/2011 08:43:21 PM 1568 Views
Well. Rebekah - 11/01/2011 09:34:42 PM 1588 Views
I agree. I would also like to add, if I may... Avendesora - 12/01/2011 01:27:59 AM 1559 Views
all 25 of them? random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:14:56 AM 1543 Views
Pffft, look it up a bit. You might find info on the national propaganda radio (NPR) site. Avendesora - 12/01/2011 12:47:33 PM 1589 Views
It's a difficult dynamic even under the best of circumstances, when both partners have chosen it. Sareitha Sedai - 12/01/2011 02:25:20 PM 1438 Views
I agree, it's very difficult. Avendesora - 12/01/2011 03:14:59 PM 1462 Views
it is nuanced random thoughts - 12/01/2011 03:06:39 PM 1499 Views
Re: it is nuanced Avendesora - 12/01/2011 04:58:36 PM 1484 Views
You are spot on. As usual. About everything. *NM* Tashmere - 12/01/2011 01:42:18 AM 910 Views
Sareitha Sedai - 12/01/2011 02:25:59 PM 1474 Views
I have to admit that this bothers me. rebelaessedai - 11/01/2011 07:33:09 PM 1599 Views
I don't expect people to understand my choice necessarily. Rebekah - 11/01/2011 09:36:52 PM 1595 Views
In addition... Jacob - 12/01/2011 05:39:25 PM 1478 Views
I guess you think the same of me then. Clover - 11/01/2011 09:48:31 PM 1428 Views
Another one? rebelaessedai - 12/01/2011 06:01:43 AM 1482 Views
Re: Another one? Rebekah - 12/01/2011 12:33:58 PM 1514 Views
~never mind~ *NM* *NM* Aeryn - 12/01/2011 04:42:47 PM 985 Views
I'm going to answer you anyway. Rebekah - 12/01/2011 04:54:18 PM 1584 Views
not to mention nossy - 12/01/2011 05:11:42 PM 1522 Views
In addition Sareitha Sedai - 12/01/2011 05:23:25 PM 1478 Views
you don't want kids? random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:46:25 PM 1461 Views
bleck nossy - 12/01/2011 11:14:25 PM 1471 Views
again not the vibe I get from you random thoughts - 12/01/2011 11:38:26 PM 1437 Views
Hehe. Clover - 13/01/2011 12:15:06 AM 1507 Views
Not selfish. Tashmere - 13/01/2011 02:45:43 AM 1480 Views
You don't have to be a doctor to contribute to the world random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:27:26 PM 1544 Views
Poor Aeryn Sareitha Sedai - 12/01/2011 05:29:47 PM 1457 Views
I replied before she edited random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:41:53 PM 1400 Views
Am I at least absolved from having to respond? Aeryn - 15/01/2011 06:11:27 AM 1522 Views
Certainly. *NM* Rebekah - 15/01/2011 09:40:09 AM 903 Views
The primary issue... Jacob - 12/01/2011 05:52:42 PM 1453 Views
*NM* Sareitha Sedai - 12/01/2011 05:54:29 PM 835 Views
Agreed; ironically, that first line applies to this thread and mine with the parenting article. Joel - 13/01/2011 10:00:28 PM 1612 Views
What Rebekah said... Clover - 15/01/2011 07:55:34 PM 1465 Views
Me too! Clover - 11/01/2011 09:43:57 PM 1518 Views
Re: Me too! Darth_Katie - 12/01/2011 01:23:39 AM 1536 Views
It has been a long, long time since I have seen a woman getting looked down on for staying at home. Tashmere - 12/01/2011 01:48:42 AM 1379 Views
I have a fiancee like that. Joel - 12/01/2011 02:14:53 AM 1457 Views
I feel so fortunate to be a stay at home mom. Beqi - 12/01/2011 11:32:37 PM 1450 Views
My commentary on the whys and wherefores of this stuff would be way too politically incorrect SilverWarder - 11/01/2011 07:56:24 PM 1615 Views
I think all of that makes sense random thoughts - 11/01/2011 08:36:39 PM 1503 Views
In this particular case I don't disagree with you. SilverWarder - 11/01/2011 09:28:13 PM 1435 Views
I'm not sure why either sex should surpass the other in math. Joel - 12/01/2011 02:34:09 AM 1409 Views
men have more physical strength period random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:30:14 AM 1441 Views
There's a lot more to running (especially marathons) then leg strength. Joel - 12/01/2011 05:41:11 AM 1469 Views
how much time the experts spend being wrong doesn't make them less wrong random thoughts - 12/01/2011 03:16:10 PM 1428 Views
How much more time they've spent studying it before drawing conclusions makes a big difference. Joel - 12/01/2011 05:42:26 PM 1442 Views
your right it is just a coincidence that their results always matches their politics random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:56:03 PM 1498 Views
There's definitely such a thing as a self fulfilling prophecy. Joel - 12/01/2011 07:00:23 PM 1459 Views
so you would trust them if they only admitted conseratives? random thoughts - 12/01/2011 09:51:00 PM 1463 Views
Admitted? No, but they'll take anyone with the grades. Joel - 13/01/2011 09:47:42 PM 1472 Views
Every study I have seen shows most schools have few to no non-leberal proffesors random thoughts - 13/01/2011 10:07:08 PM 1390 Views
Every study I've ever seen shows that math and science fields have few to no women. Joel - 13/01/2011 10:42:46 PM 1512 Views
not when we know men are better at math thewpmen are random thoughts - 13/01/2011 11:10:18 PM 1579 Views
Sigh... we know no such thing, and even if we did, it would be those biased liberals telling us. Joel - 13/01/2011 11:30:33 PM 1379 Views
When you talk about reasons men "should" be better at math Sareitha Sedai - 12/01/2011 03:47:53 PM 1513 Views
Re: When you talk about reasons men "should" be better at math Macharius - 12/01/2011 04:32:38 PM 1378 Views
Re: When you talk about reasons men "should" be better at math Sareitha Sedai - 12/01/2011 04:41:42 PM 1484 Views
Both, really; the latter is a consequence of the former. Joel - 12/01/2011 05:21:28 PM 1388 Views
I'm trying to understand your position Sareitha Sedai - 12/01/2011 05:28:43 PM 1470 Views
try string theory, it makes more sense than Joel logic random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:57:27 PM 1370 Views
Now you've got it. Joel - 12/01/2011 06:40:50 PM 1557 Views
Okay, that's fair. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 12/01/2011 06:42:30 PM 799 Views
Glad we were able to reach an understanding. Joel - 13/01/2011 10:02:47 PM 1418 Views
Re: I'm trying to understand your position Camilla - 13/01/2011 08:12:05 PM 1457 Views
we know the brain of women works differently then the brains of men random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:40:15 PM 1485 Views
What evidence I'm aware of seems inconclusive. Joel - 12/01/2011 06:46:50 PM 1302 Views
There are theories but of course they are unprovable random thoughts - 12/01/2011 10:50:08 PM 1447 Views
That's a logical rationale, and might even be accurate, but in this case I want hard evidence. Joel - 13/01/2011 09:03:32 PM 1387 Views
I think if you look you find you believe all sorts of things that can't be proven random thoughts - 13/01/2011 10:03:54 PM 1457 Views
I have, and have frequently argued everyone holds such beliefs. Joel - 13/01/2011 10:33:01 PM 1311 Views
here is some evdience to argue that it is not society but biology random thoughts - 13/01/2011 08:43:43 PM 1477 Views
I think you did like I always do and forgot to give us a way to click your link. Joel - 13/01/2011 09:56:52 PM 1502 Views
oops random thoughts - 13/01/2011 10:07:55 PM 1525 Views
Seems like that's an argument for both views, in a way. Joel - 13/01/2011 11:14:11 PM 1406 Views
You can use anything to prove what you want if you are willing to spin it hard enough random thoughts - 14/01/2011 02:57:29 PM 1658 Views
I used YOUR article to "prove" what it says outright. Joel - 15/01/2011 05:35:27 PM 1585 Views
I would also like to say this: Rebekah - 11/01/2011 09:33:23 PM 1466 Views
Of course Tom - 12/01/2011 01:47:14 AM 1511 Views
Re: Of course Rebekah - 12/01/2011 04:57:11 PM 1476 Views
"Night" is also almost invariably feminine, in my experience. Legolas - 12/01/2011 07:58:12 PM 1494 Views
Re: "Night" is also almost invariably feminine, in my experience. Camilla - 12/01/2011 08:15:59 PM 1502 Views
It's true for Arabic and hence, one suspects, Hebrew. Legolas - 13/01/2011 07:43:21 PM 1376 Views
I'm glad YOU think it's fun... Joel - 13/01/2011 10:05:07 PM 1443 Views
I seem to remember reading about genders in Norwegian once, but I forget now... Legolas - 13/01/2011 10:11:24 PM 1492 Views
I think you may be right, but I'll no more after next week. Joel - 14/01/2011 12:20:54 AM 1612 Views
Re: I would also like to say this: Camilla - 12/01/2011 09:15:28 AM 1503 Views
Re: I would also like to say this: Rebekah - 12/01/2011 12:27:14 PM 1479 Views
No Camilla - 12/01/2011 12:28:48 PM 1361 Views
Re: No Rebekah - 12/01/2011 12:35:56 PM 1350 Views
Re: No Camilla - 12/01/2011 12:37:33 PM 1458 Views
Re: No Rebekah - 12/01/2011 12:43:36 PM 1464 Views
Re: No Camilla - 12/01/2011 12:47:56 PM 1496 Views
Since this has become too complicated Rebekah - 12/01/2011 12:54:54 PM 1495 Views
Re: Since this has become too complicated Camilla - 12/01/2011 12:56:20 PM 1504 Views
Re: Since this has become too complicated Rebekah - 12/01/2011 04:55:50 PM 1433 Views
The two are used as different psychological concepts. Darth_Katie - 12/01/2011 02:24:58 PM 1429 Views
Again, used incorrectly. Tom - 12/01/2011 03:34:22 PM 1429 Views
Re: Again, used incorrectly. Camilla - 12/01/2011 04:00:59 PM 1502 Views
Exactly. *NM* Rebekah - 12/01/2011 04:53:03 PM 825 Views
It really doesn't surprise me Beqi - 12/01/2011 12:36:19 AM 1459 Views
Have you left a memo at the Feminist Movement's Office? Dannymac - 12/01/2011 12:46:45 AM 1500 Views
what the point? Like good liberals they only believe science that agrees with them *NM* random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:31:09 AM 753 Views
Actually, the feminist movement was completely successful. Tom - 12/01/2011 01:42:44 AM 1504 Views
Well put. *NM* everynametaken - 12/01/2011 02:10:56 AM 806 Views
I was playing a bit but I agree that the feminist in the past accomplished a lot random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:34:04 AM 1496 Views
NOW is just a left-leaning PAC. Tom - 12/01/2011 03:16:52 PM 1488 Views
I would argue the women's movement and the feminist movement are not the same thing random thoughts - 12/01/2011 03:53:19 PM 1467 Views
Now if only others were so rational about it. SilverWarder - 17/01/2011 05:55:57 AM 2654 Views
Nevermind, Tom beat me to it. Avendesora - 12/01/2011 01:54:07 AM 1423 Views
Mmm. I don't think you understand the feminist movement. You have been reading to many things Tashmere - 12/01/2011 01:56:20 AM 1491 Views
I was refering to groups like NOW random thoughts - 12/01/2011 05:40:46 AM 1435 Views
Gotcha. Tashmere - 12/01/2011 11:53:29 PM 1400 Views
I was being a tad bit trollish with my title random thoughts - 13/01/2011 01:47:30 AM 1388 Views
I'm not sure that follows, at all. Joel - 12/01/2011 02:06:41 AM 1454 Views
they never mention their study methods Ava - 12/01/2011 02:14:15 PM 1466 Views
Gosh, look what you started. nossy - 12/01/2011 03:00:23 PM 1477 Views
somebody need to start something it is pretty dead around here *NM* random thoughts - 12/01/2011 03:16:54 PM 846 Views
Seriously *NM* beetnemesis - 12/01/2011 09:56:56 PM 811 Views
I agree that it would be awesome to hang with my kid every day and not have to work. TaskmasterJack - 12/01/2011 11:33:25 PM 1508 Views
that part would be great random thoughts - 12/01/2011 11:40:49 PM 1465 Views
I could do it every day. TaskmasterJack - 13/01/2011 12:52:56 AM 1402 Views
Me too... Jacob - 13/01/2011 02:45:49 PM 1505 Views
So here's the question. Why don't men have a "choice" to opt-out? Aeryn - 15/01/2011 06:13:28 AM 1469 Views
They do. Rebekah - 15/01/2011 09:42:29 AM 1407 Views
read further up the thread random thoughts - 15/01/2011 10:49:08 AM 1528 Views
I really wish that were more socially acceptable. Clover - 15/01/2011 07:58:57 PM 1531 Views
I feel I have that choice. TaskmasterJack - 16/01/2011 12:08:48 AM 1450 Views
They most certainly do. Jacob - 18/01/2011 04:39:09 PM 1570 Views
This sounds awful to me. rebelaessedai - 13/01/2011 04:27:08 AM 1462 Views
Re: This sounds awful to me. TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2011 02:47:36 AM 1461 Views
Yikes. rebelaessedai - 14/01/2011 11:13:39 PM 1441 Views
I should have twigged on to that sooner. I would have if I had read more posts before answering. Tashmere - 13/01/2011 02:50:20 AM 1495 Views
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