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I don't know. *NM* (I feel bad for the 20 people who viewed this message- my apologies) Vivien Send a noteboard - 20/04/2011 04:36:13 AM
expectations when you just start out differ from when you first move in together, to now, where he felt that their expectation levels were far more compatible and therefore their relationship has really taken a turn for the positive.

As an example, he mentioned this past weekend. His wife had asked him if he wanted to go with her to her mother for Easter. He replied: "I'll think about it." Her response was that she said she'll just go on her own.

The improvement he saw here was that in the past, his response would have led to an argument. His stance in the argument was also clear from what he mentioned, namely: "I didn't say I wouldn't go, I said I'd think about it." So to his thinking, their expectation levels are more in sync, which shows the relationship is better.

To me it sounds a lot more like his wife has given up on trying to get him to come along, i.e. their expectation levels aren't more in sync, but she's simply given up on this part of their relationship.

Now I have a very different type of relationship from him. It would never occur to either my fiancé or me to not go to family when it's important for the other person. So my friend's response to his wife would have been utterly bewildering to me. A big part of a relationship to me is doing things for each other, because they are important to my partner, and my fiancé feels the same way.

So perhaps my views that this is a sign of a break down is simply caused by my different perspective on relationships. What do you think? Do you think that my friend's relationship has improved as he thinks, or do you think that it's a sign of his wife giving up on parts of their relationship, potentially leading to an eventual breakdown?
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Relationship - positive development or signs of eventual break down? - 19/04/2011 08:48:26 AM 1915 Views
Helene, I want to give you an answer but... - 19/04/2011 08:58:45 AM 1055 Views
Fair enough - 19/04/2011 10:01:51 AM 1005 Views
inlaws are not always bad - 19/04/2011 02:10:18 PM 967 Views
I spend way more time with my in-laws than with my own family. - 19/04/2011 02:17:41 PM 958 Views
I'm like this with my future in-laws too. *NM* - 19/04/2011 04:47:05 PM 469 Views
I think they are right - 19/04/2011 10:20:39 AM 1187 Views
I see your point - 19/04/2011 10:42:51 AM 1147 Views
Re: I think they are right - 19/04/2011 01:59:57 PM 1015 Views
I think that's an unfair assumption. - 19/04/2011 02:16:54 PM 941 Views
What he said about his wife's mother - 19/04/2011 02:59:32 PM 1116 Views
No offense... - 19/04/2011 02:35:53 PM 1092 Views
yes but have you found such a thing? - 19/04/2011 03:05:35 PM 1023 Views
For now I have *NM* - 19/04/2011 03:08:17 PM 499 Views
how long has it been? *NM* - 19/04/2011 03:16:32 PM 476 Views
Don't try to corrupt me with your long term pessimism - 19/04/2011 03:34:39 PM 970 Views
sadly I seem attracted to the crazies *NM* - 19/04/2011 04:08:14 PM 468 Views
Could be either - 19/04/2011 10:30:50 AM 1068 Views
True enough... - 19/04/2011 10:44:28 AM 1032 Views
My opinion is the latter. - 19/04/2011 01:55:00 PM 1038 Views
He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 01:56:49 PM 1022 Views
Re: He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 02:07:34 PM 1002 Views
Re: He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 02:13:25 PM 1124 Views
I should have read this first. - 19/04/2011 02:25:16 PM 1054 Views
Re: He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 02:23:14 PM 1035 Views
The fact that you are referring to a fiancé and comparing it to wife says a lot - 19/04/2011 02:09:27 PM 1129 Views
To be fair, me and my fiance have been together for about as long as they have - 19/04/2011 02:57:03 PM 969 Views
I don't know about everyone but things changed when we got married - 19/04/2011 03:16:11 PM 1010 Views
How did things change? - 19/04/2011 04:14:56 PM 1009 Views
Like I said I can only speak for myself - 19/04/2011 04:54:04 PM 1043 Views
There's already a 10 year old in the picture for us - 19/04/2011 06:52:44 PM 972 Views
My husband and I don't understand why people say this. - 20/04/2011 01:03:31 AM 1083 Views
I did say I was only speaking for myself - 20/04/2011 01:58:45 PM 1023 Views
I know. - 20/04/2011 09:01:11 PM 1240 Views
Sorry for some reason I thought you had just got married. - 20/04/2011 09:52:24 PM 1473 Views
Good luck to them! *NM* - 22/04/2011 04:25:38 AM 455 Views
From the information that you have presented... - 19/04/2011 03:50:19 PM 1199 Views
I am in agreement with you, and I'm not particularly Christian. - 19/04/2011 04:11:57 PM 945 Views
Could go either way. - 19/04/2011 04:36:02 PM 975 Views
I get the impression that it's more about her forming toward him than vice versa - 19/04/2011 06:56:37 PM 991 Views
Giving up is one thing, growing past is another. - 19/04/2011 10:00:55 PM 938 Views
Oh, to be fair, he's the friend and she's the wife - 20/04/2011 08:43:12 AM 908 Views
I don't necessarily think it will end in a breakup or divorce. - 19/04/2011 04:44:11 PM 963 Views
I think this is about priorities. - 20/04/2011 01:07:20 AM 1118 Views
Our priorities may shift over time, too. We're still very young and more tied to our families. - 20/04/2011 03:09:54 AM 925 Views
Even when younger, I was independent. - 20/04/2011 05:29:59 AM 861 Views
*nods* - 20/04/2011 06:25:29 AM 1046 Views
- 22/04/2011 04:29:32 AM 1248 Views
Not the former for sure, and maybe not the latter. - 19/04/2011 05:55:03 PM 1021 Views
Can't tell. - 19/04/2011 10:04:27 PM 940 Views
I'm with the 'can't tell' crowd. - 19/04/2011 11:37:17 PM 1248 Views
hell, or she could just not care too much at all - 19/04/2011 11:43:21 PM 969 Views
I'm leaning more towards your interpretation. *NM* - 20/04/2011 02:15:22 AM 432 Views
I don't know. *NM* (I feel bad for the 20 people who viewed this message- my apologies) - 20/04/2011 04:36:13 AM 1016 Views
I'm with you on this. *NM* - 20/04/2011 10:00:41 AM 481 Views
*sigh* - 20/04/2011 09:25:02 PM 1087 Views
Re: I mean, it's not good. *NM* - 20/04/2011 11:50:21 PM 422 Views

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