IS it that you think the mass estimates are actually off or that they are right and we just can't see the otherwise normal matter? Because they're kinda separate for the purpose of producing supporting evidence.
What bothers me is that there seem to be several possible but largely unexplored alternatives to "well, that's dark matter irrefutably proven then". I'm reminded of that Laplace line paraphrased as extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence; positing not just neutrinos but an entire new class of matter strikes me as something requiring a bit more evidence than one anomaly can provide. Particularly given many members of the group pressing that claim reject far older and less controversial claims possessing far more evidence....
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Exciting video about the universe
- 28/04/2011 10:14:55 AM
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I still think dark matter's just non-luminous matter without a convenient light source to reflect.
- 28/04/2011 10:34:21 PM
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We've just about ruled out the idea that dark matter is just non-luminous "ordinary" matter.
- 28/04/2011 11:44:34 PM
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I'm aware of the Bullet Cluster, though admittedly not much more than that.
- 29/04/2011 01:52:49 AM
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Re: I'm aware of the Bullet Cluster, though admittedly not much more than that.
- 29/04/2011 02:56:32 AM
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Re: I'm aware of the Bullet Cluster, though admittedly not much more than that.
- 30/04/2011 05:02:49 PM
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Re: I'm aware of the Bullet Cluster, though admittedly not much more than that.
- 30/04/2011 08:56:35 PM
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Re: I'm aware of the Bullet Cluster, though admittedly not much more than that.
- 02/05/2011 01:28:30 AM
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Re: I'm aware of the Bullet Cluster, though admittedly not much more than that.
- 04/05/2011 04:18:18 AM
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There's such a thing as knowing when you're licked, and I believe I am. 
- 07/05/2011 02:04:53 AM
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- 07/05/2011 02:04:53 AM
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Re: There's such a thing as knowing when you're licked, and I believe I am.
- 09/05/2011 11:28:48 PM
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- 09/05/2011 11:28:48 PM
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Re: There's such a thing as knowing when you're licked, and I believe I am.
- 14/05/2011 05:36:45 AM
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- 14/05/2011 05:36:45 AM
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Re: There's such a thing as knowing when you're licked, and I believe I am.
- 17/05/2011 02:09:40 AM
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- 17/05/2011 02:09:40 AM
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Re: There's such a thing as knowing when you're licked, and I believe I am.
- 19/05/2011 04:55:21 AM
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- 19/05/2011 04:55:21 AM
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Re: There's such a thing as knowing when you're licked, and I believe I am.
- 24/05/2011 09:32:27 PM
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- 24/05/2011 09:32:27 PM
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The Pati-Salam model was the one I had in mind.
- 24/05/2011 10:34:04 PM
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- 24/05/2011 11:08:01 PM
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Re: The Pati-Salam model was the one I had in mind.
- 25/05/2011 01:27:10 AM
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Re: The Pati-Salam model was the one I had in mind.
- 31/05/2011 09:16:18 AM
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Apologies for the delay; internet's been spotty and I've been busy lately.
- 10/06/2011 12:09:04 AM
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Re: Apologies for the delay; internet's been spotty and I've been busy lately.
- 14/06/2011 03:38:18 AM
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Also, re: lensing from ordinary matter:
- 29/04/2011 05:18:47 AM
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This seems like another example of what confuses the issue.
- 30/04/2011 05:25:04 PM
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Re: This seems like another example of what confuses the issue.
- 30/04/2011 08:56:40 PM
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That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 02/05/2011 01:29:03 AM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 04/05/2011 04:18:24 AM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 07/05/2011 02:05:02 AM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 09/05/2011 11:29:36 PM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 14/05/2011 05:35:56 AM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 17/05/2011 02:09:55 AM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 19/05/2011 02:47:25 AM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 24/05/2011 09:46:30 PM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 25/05/2011 12:20:10 AM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 31/05/2011 09:16:22 AM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 10/06/2011 12:04:06 AM
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Re: That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible".
- 14/06/2011 03:38:12 AM
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Re: I still think... (apparently, there is a 100 character limit on subjects, and yours was 99)
- 28/04/2011 11:57:15 PM
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Seems to happen to me a lot; sorry.
- 29/04/2011 12:56:14 AM
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None of this reflects on the actual facts of dark matter.
- 29/04/2011 01:32:52 AM
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I concede my grasp (or grope) is a somewhat superficial laymans, yes.
- 30/04/2011 04:30:28 PM
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Re: I concede my grasp (or grope) is a somewhat superficial laymans, yes.
- 30/04/2011 08:56:44 PM
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Re: I concede my grasp (or grope) is a somewhat superficial laymans, yes.
- 02/05/2011 01:28:58 AM
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Re: I concede my grasp (or grope) is a somewhat superficial laymans, yes.
- 04/05/2011 04:18:27 AM
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I don't object to changing my mind, but can take more convincing than I really should.
- 07/05/2011 02:05:09 AM
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- 09/05/2011 11:32:17 PM
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- 14/05/2011 05:36:24 AM
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- 17/05/2011 02:10:03 AM
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- 19/05/2011 04:33:06 AM
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- 24/05/2011 09:59:38 PM
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- 24/05/2011 11:19:43 PM
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- 24/05/2011 11:33:58 PM
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- 25/05/2011 12:55:36 AM
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- 31/05/2011 09:16:24 AM
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- 10/06/2011 12:09:13 AM
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- 14/06/2011 03:38:05 AM
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Might help if you clarified where your skepticism is at
- 29/04/2011 02:32:07 AM
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Potentially either, or a combination of the two.
- 30/04/2011 02:36:50 PM
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It's hard to discuss without knowing your objections a bit more clearly
- 30/04/2011 04:58:03 PM
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My primary objection is that alternatives to dark matter seem to have been ruled out prematurely.
- 02/05/2011 01:29:14 AM
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