Re: Cool cool. I have a question on a semi-related note, about Protestant Gospels
Isaac Send a noteboard - 12/05/2011 08:52:48 PM
As Tom mentioned, adding books is generally a big no-no for protestants, also usually the term Apocrypha (when not being used as a sneer) to protestants represents books that are considered useful bot not divinely inspired, I guess a non-biblical example would be Aesop's Fables.
Red Letter Bibles aren't to my knowledge controversial, what does or doesn't get red-lettered sometimes is, and I don't think the Mormons consider their book to be part of the new testament, but you'd have to ask one of them, there are some on the site.
As for variations, this is mostly on translation, not which books are in or out, deuterocanonical books mostly are out, nothing gets added. Translations though would be the NIV, NSRV, KJV, and things like the Message, too the best of my knowledge the NIV is usually considered the best current translation by most protestants, that is how I view it but that opinion is rooted strictly in being told it is by pastors who knew Koine, my knowledge of Greek languages is limited to the use of the letters in mathematical formulas.
So, yeah. Are there any variations in the New Testament between branches of Christianity? Only ones I can think of off hand are the Book of Mormon, and that one where everything Jesus says is in red ink.
Red Letter Bibles aren't to my knowledge controversial, what does or doesn't get red-lettered sometimes is, and I don't think the Mormons consider their book to be part of the new testament, but you'd have to ask one of them, there are some on the site.
As for variations, this is mostly on translation, not which books are in or out, deuterocanonical books mostly are out, nothing gets added. Translations though would be the NIV, NSRV, KJV, and things like the Message, too the best of my knowledge the NIV is usually considered the best current translation by most protestants, that is how I view it but that opinion is rooted strictly in being told it is by pastors who knew Koine, my knowledge of Greek languages is limited to the use of the letters in mathematical formulas.
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Presbyterian Church (USA) passes Amendment 10-A.
- 11/05/2011 05:39:29 PM
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What's the language? Did they at least TRY to give a doctrinal justification?
- 12/05/2011 02:10:46 AM
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Thank you for that rousing argument against married priests.
- 12/05/2011 03:36:51 AM
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Why ARE you letting women into the priesthood?
- 12/05/2011 04:16:50 AM
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Because Episcopalians don't listen to the Bible much.
- 12/05/2011 05:47:03 AM
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That's just fine as far as I'm concerned
- 12/05/2011 02:23:44 PM
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Yes, I suppose a church could go that route.
- 14/05/2011 07:38:02 AM
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I'm not attempting to impose a dichotomy on the Bible.
- 14/05/2011 03:25:30 PM
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I don't even know what following the Bible in its entirety means.
- 14/05/2011 09:09:10 PM
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As an exercise, I tried to think of how I would justify allowing homosexuals as clergy.
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Thanks (I'm actually OK with women priests though).
- 12/05/2011 07:09:11 AM
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There's ample precedent for female religious leaders, even within the bible.
- 12/05/2011 06:51:05 AM
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Since when is Moses' society the be-all end all?
- 12/05/2011 07:12:41 PM
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Since never, which is why I referenced five other eras you completely ignored.
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They did so, via negativa.
- 12/05/2011 04:22:17 PM
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Sorry for the delay, particularly since it looks like I'll be spending a fair amount of time here.
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Your church has a constitution?!
- 12/05/2011 03:36:41 AM
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My Church has a congress! 
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Haha no way! *NM*
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Well, we have one group of laity and one of bishops, so it is only mildy utter chaos. *NM*
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I'm happy to hear this, personally. I also wonder how you reconcile this with the Bible.
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Every direct reference to homosexuality in the Bible is a reference to rape.
- 12/05/2011 04:12:43 PM
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Every single word that you wrote in your response is complete bullshit.
- 12/05/2011 05:50:07 PM
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Knock off your eisegesis, try some exegesis
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I'm trying to figure out just what your "gifts" are, because I don't see any.
- 12/05/2011 07:30:39 PM
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There are cases in which hypocrisy is far better than the alternatives.
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Hypocrisy is better than, say, setting gays on fire, yes.
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My statement is that, from a pragmatic point of view, hypocrisy shouldn't be discouraged too much.
- 13/05/2011 10:05:39 PM
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Oh, is that how we're playing this, then?
- 13/05/2011 06:29:31 PM
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I'm not playing. I'm pointing out some glaring errors on your part.
- 13/05/2011 07:25:08 PM
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The Bible says what it says. The problem... people like to tell us just what else it's saying.
- 13/05/2011 05:31:29 PM
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You don't reconcile... you pick the parts you like and adjust the rest to suit you.
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Another example...
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If you claim to follow the entire Bible, then you are completely correct.
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On the contrary, this move will take some butts out of the seats.
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We both know that isn't the case
- 12/05/2011 07:55:41 PM
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Cool cool. I have a question on a semi-related note, about Protestant Gospels
- 12/05/2011 05:33:49 PM
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No Protestant denomination has added so much as a word to the Bible
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So, everyone hates Judith, then?
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The Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Churches accept Judith as part of Scripture.
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Does the Eastern Orthodox Church also segregate deuterocanonical works like Roman Catholicism does?
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The Eastern Church bases everything on the Septuagint.
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That sounds appealing, and makes sense.
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Oh, I just enjoy calling Protestants "heretics" to remind them not everyone agrees with them.
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Re: Cool cool. I have a question on a semi-related note, about Protestant Gospels
- 12/05/2011 08:52:48 PM
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The NIV is terrible. The NASB has the best translation I have found (of the NT, at least).
- 12/05/2011 10:43:58 PM
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I find this really weird, to be honest
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Well, it wasn't just Athanasius. But yes, we are lucky in that respect. *NM*
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Athanasius's list reflected the victory of Pauline Christianity
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There's a school of thought that says that's a strong vindication of Athanasius. 
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