He murders kids because they're liberal, you spit on their graves: You both belong in an asylum.
Joel Send a noteboard - 26/07/2011 07:54:08 AM
I don’t know or care if you’re being sincere or just engaged in more trolling, because it’s disgusting and beneath contempt regardless. He hunted down and murdered children begging for their lives SPECIFICALLY and SOLELY because they were liberal. Now you try to criminalize the victims, accuse the murderer of beliefs he OPPOSES so strongly he murdered defenceless children for supporting them. Even if you genuinely have lost all sense of human decency, at least retain the grace to fake it. He murdered liberals to promote conservatism, you defame the innocent dead by accusing him of their liberalism, also to promote conservatism. That’s a difference of degree, not kind; you’re as much “far-left” as Breivik—and no more. You’re every bit as delusional and far right as him though, you just haven’t murdered anyone because of it. Yet. So far as I know. If they need someone to testify at your insanity hearing, please do let me know. I can share the facts that you:
1) Are delusional to the point of rejecting reality,
2) Are far right,
3) Are incapable of admitting any conservative wrongdoing,
4) Oppose liberals at all costs and
5) Make frequent online posts reflecting the preceding facts and urging others to adopt your warped views.
SOUND LIKE ANYONE IN THE NEWS RECENTLY?!!!
You’re OFFENDED that a right wing terrorist who murdered liberal children for BEING liberal is called the right wing terrorist he is; I’m terribly sorry for the awful tragedy that has befallen poor fucking you. I DARE you to come over here and tell those childrens’ parents their murderer was a “left-wing” anything. I’d love to watch Vikings acquaint you with the ACTUAL meaning of the terms “left” and “right-wing” both politically and as they function in the term “blood eagle”. You’re frankly so full of crap your eyes must be brown; I hope you realize that and are just goading me, but, again, it’s reprehensible either way because at the very least you’re entertaining yourself with the mass murder of children simply because you oppose their political beliefs.
In case you’re not, however, there are a few things you need to at least try to understand. Ascribing all negative acts to political foes, even when they’re perpetrated by undeniable political allies, dehumanizes you as much as your foes, and that’s the kind of thinking that convinces people it’s OK to murder defenceless children if they belong to that other sub-human group who deserves no human rights. Even if you retain enough decency or shame to avoid such acts yourself, you encourage them from your (more) unbalanced comrades in very literal arms. That’s just as true if you’re merely trolling; it’s all fun and games until 68 children are murdered in cold blood.
The other thing you need to get RIGHT NOW is that you can’t keep advocating the annihilation of liberals by any means necessary then disavowing as "liberals" anyone who put your words into violent action. No one’s buying the BS except your fellow maniacs; the sane 95% of the world is tired of being murdered for disagreeing with you, and won't meekly accept terrified submission to violent brutality. Your lunatic fantasy is an aberration, a mental disease, in humanity rather than the norm, and no one infected by it has the competence or stability to be trusted with a pair of safety scissors, let alone guns, voting or policy decisions.
So you go right ahead, keep telling everyone you can find that a NATIONALIST who claims to be defending Judeo-Christian SOCIETY is an “anarchist”. Tell them how murdering defenceless children for being “Marxists” makes him liberal. Go on Fox with John Bolton and say it, shout it from the rooftops. It’ll make it that much easier to identify you all so we can put you in a nice soft room together where you’ll be no threat to anyone except each other. You can all insist that any atrocity is justified against liberals, call each other "liberals" for committing such atrocities against liberals and slaughter each other to your hearts content. For the first and probably only time in your lives you’ll ACTUALLY have done your country a SERVICE. You’ve actually given me a reason to vote for Obama again after all: He may be as much a spineless dishonest corporate tool as any Republican, but at least he’s not violently insane and won’t murder me in cold blood for opposing him.
1) Are delusional to the point of rejecting reality,
2) Are far right,
3) Are incapable of admitting any conservative wrongdoing,
4) Oppose liberals at all costs and
5) Make frequent online posts reflecting the preceding facts and urging others to adopt your warped views.
SOUND LIKE ANYONE IN THE NEWS RECENTLY?!!!
You’re OFFENDED that a right wing terrorist who murdered liberal children for BEING liberal is called the right wing terrorist he is; I’m terribly sorry for the awful tragedy that has befallen poor fucking you. I DARE you to come over here and tell those childrens’ parents their murderer was a “left-wing” anything. I’d love to watch Vikings acquaint you with the ACTUAL meaning of the terms “left” and “right-wing” both politically and as they function in the term “blood eagle”. You’re frankly so full of crap your eyes must be brown; I hope you realize that and are just goading me, but, again, it’s reprehensible either way because at the very least you’re entertaining yourself with the mass murder of children simply because you oppose their political beliefs.
In case you’re not, however, there are a few things you need to at least try to understand. Ascribing all negative acts to political foes, even when they’re perpetrated by undeniable political allies, dehumanizes you as much as your foes, and that’s the kind of thinking that convinces people it’s OK to murder defenceless children if they belong to that other sub-human group who deserves no human rights. Even if you retain enough decency or shame to avoid such acts yourself, you encourage them from your (more) unbalanced comrades in very literal arms. That’s just as true if you’re merely trolling; it’s all fun and games until 68 children are murdered in cold blood.
The other thing you need to get RIGHT NOW is that you can’t keep advocating the annihilation of liberals by any means necessary then disavowing as "liberals" anyone who put your words into violent action. No one’s buying the BS except your fellow maniacs; the sane 95% of the world is tired of being murdered for disagreeing with you, and won't meekly accept terrified submission to violent brutality. Your lunatic fantasy is an aberration, a mental disease, in humanity rather than the norm, and no one infected by it has the competence or stability to be trusted with a pair of safety scissors, let alone guns, voting or policy decisions.
So you go right ahead, keep telling everyone you can find that a NATIONALIST who claims to be defending Judeo-Christian SOCIETY is an “anarchist”. Tell them how murdering defenceless children for being “Marxists” makes him liberal. Go on Fox with John Bolton and say it, shout it from the rooftops. It’ll make it that much easier to identify you all so we can put you in a nice soft room together where you’ll be no threat to anyone except each other. You can all insist that any atrocity is justified against liberals, call each other "liberals" for committing such atrocities against liberals and slaughter each other to your hearts content. For the first and probably only time in your lives you’ll ACTUALLY have done your country a SERVICE. You’ve actually given me a reason to vote for Obama again after all: He may be as much a spineless dishonest corporate tool as any Republican, but at least he’s not violently insane and won’t murder me in cold blood for opposing him.
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Please Don't Eat the Newbies!

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- Edit 1 by Joel on 26/07/2011 at 07:56:44 AM
Fox Condemns (Calling) Norways Right Wing Terrorist (a Right Wing Terrorist).
26/07/2011 02:31:25 AM
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Norway shooter = ultra left-wing anarchist *NM*
26/07/2011 04:11:58 AM
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How exactly is anarchism ultra left-wing? *NM*
26/07/2011 05:48:15 AM
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That part actually makes sense; both are anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment and anti-statist.
26/07/2011 08:03:19 AM
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Re: Norway shooter = Christian fundamentalist
26/07/2011 05:58:54 AM
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I'm not.
26/07/2011 08:14:33 AM
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funny how we always keep hearing that Europe left isn't Ameircan left
26/07/2011 01:18:57 PM
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No one called him "American right"
26/07/2011 01:59:07 PM
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so why is the left complaining that the American right won't claim him? *NM*
26/07/2011 02:06:44 PM
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They don't have to claim him.
26/07/2011 02:08:37 PM
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Or the left could not use the massacre for political advantage and just call him mad man
26/07/2011 03:29:20 PM
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I neither care nor am responsible for US media
26/07/2011 03:57:08 PM
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this is an article about the US media or hadn't you noticed?
26/07/2011 04:27:58 PM
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Yes but I didn't reply to the main article, but to Trzaska being ignorant
26/07/2011 04:36:52 PM
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Just to be clear
26/07/2011 04:42:04 PM
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just be clear I am not defending the argument that he a leftist
26/07/2011 05:30:27 PM
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People seem to forget that there are several different kinds of Left & Right wing views.
26/07/2011 06:23:37 PM
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sorry that sounds all nice and reasonable but it doesn't really represent reality
26/07/2011 06:41:10 PM
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I get that it is an American TV station making this nonsensical statement,
26/07/2011 06:50:36 PM
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See, the thing with an extremist, is that he doesn't have all that much in common with
26/07/2011 03:59:05 PM
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A right OR left wing extremist is just that; that's why your mouthpieces are so defensive.
26/07/2011 10:40:46 PM
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I am not surprised that the left has wasted no time in local for poltical gain from tragedy
26/07/2011 01:13:13 PM
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He murders kids because they're liberal, you spit on their graves: You both belong in an asylum.
26/07/2011 07:54:08 AM
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Aaaaaaand you are back on my ignore list. Thanks for confirming my original instincts were right. *NM*
26/07/2011 11:18:25 AM
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He says (through his lawyer) ...
26/07/2011 01:54:51 PM
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funny how when it is right wing wacko we always see that title applied
26/07/2011 02:09:10 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
26/07/2011 03:55:13 PM
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Ted Kaczynski was a far left extremist
26/07/2011 04:24:21 PM
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Now I see what you mean.
26/07/2011 04:43:49 PM
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I would argue that his actions were tied to his beliefs on the specific issue of immigration
26/07/2011 06:11:23 PM
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And Glenn Beck shows his usual good taste
26/07/2011 09:11:34 AM
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I'm seriously wondering if attacking the victims here will be the tipping point for US fascists.
26/07/2011 10:30:33 AM
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why does Fox NEws makes liberals so stupid?
26/07/2011 01:04:50 PM
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+1 - the mainstream media loves to jump to conclusions like in Arizona.....
26/07/2011 01:13:12 PM
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Really? (+edit)
26/07/2011 04:53:53 PM
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no the argument started when the media couldn't stop trying to hang him around the neck of the right
26/07/2011 06:46:59 PM
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...
26/07/2011 06:52:45 PM
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if the term doesn't fit in the US then it makes no sense for US media to use the term here
26/07/2011 08:14:40 PM
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This was my point.
26/07/2011 08:21:17 PM
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so are you pulling crap out of thin air now?
26/07/2011 08:36:08 PM
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You need to take a few deep breaths and take a step back.
26/07/2011 11:09:47 PM
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I may be frustrated but I think it is justified
27/07/2011 12:11:09 AM
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I'm sorry if my comment was stupid.
27/07/2011 04:38:47 PM
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I was just taken back a bit because I read it right after complementing you
27/07/2011 06:05:38 PM
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It's the liberals fault they were murdered; I get that that's the American far right argument.
26/07/2011 11:09:25 PM
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BTW, you understand the American right are the only people on the PLANET who dispute he's far right?
26/07/2011 11:21:59 PM
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Joel did you actually read what the Ambassador said?
27/07/2011 12:37:39 AM
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He called it "speculation" that Breivik was part of right-wing extremism.
27/07/2011 01:03:11 AM
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Wow. Let's just make this about us, why don't we?
26/07/2011 04:19:06 PM
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oh please the left is one trying to make about the right
26/07/2011 04:36:39 PM
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I'm referring to all Americans (both sides) who are currently fighting this out.
26/07/2011 04:44:45 PM
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I agree 100% that this issue shouldn't be used in American politics
26/07/2011 06:33:48 PM
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To Hell with them; even the normally indulgent American public will put them in a rubber room soon.
26/07/2011 11:36:13 PM
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You people all need to get a grip
26/07/2011 08:33:01 PM
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+1 - I have no idea why Joel started this thread.....he is obsessed with labels. *NM*
26/07/2011 08:39:29 PM
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No, you do not agree with what Wibble said. Your +1 makes zero sense. *NM*
26/07/2011 11:11:31 PM
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That's what I'm trying to do.
26/07/2011 10:05:29 PM
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You are too close to this just now.
26/07/2011 10:17:22 PM
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Probably,but that it happened in perhaps the safest most liberal place on Earth makes it inescapable
27/07/2011 12:26:45 AM
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Joel you are so full of shit
26/07/2011 10:39:03 PM
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Read Joel's post title again, will you?
26/07/2011 11:21:51 PM
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Oh please, Legolas
26/07/2011 11:44:26 PM
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Quite. And I have every right to point out they're being insensitive jerks. *NM*
26/07/2011 11:53:28 PM
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Bullshit
27/07/2011 04:20:04 AM
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For the record, I've always supported guns for self defense (and hunting, and liberty from tyranny).
27/07/2011 10:52:02 AM
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While I have no real interest in getting involved in the troll fest this post has turned in to
27/07/2011 11:23:46 AM
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I don't see any troll posts. Just discussions.
27/07/2011 02:18:06 PM
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No trolling? And you include the first reply in that?
27/07/2011 02:28:51 PM
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so is the troll the person who makes the point or is the people who refuse to acknowledge it
27/07/2011 02:41:31 PM
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Do you think trz was right to call him an ultra left wing anarchist?
27/07/2011 04:15:50 PM
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I assumed he was referring to me when talked about picking fights with people
27/07/2011 05:53:43 PM
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yes Joel did an outstanding job of proving I wasn't being paranoid *NM*
27/07/2011 02:35:05 PM
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extremely offensive...makes them fearful... gives some people... another excuse to try&silence them
27/07/2011 04:14:37 PM
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One of us is.
27/07/2011 12:22:44 AM
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Anyone saying Brevik has nothing in common with the American "Right" is lying to themselves
26/07/2011 08:49:29 PM
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glad you could come along, someone has to represent the ignorant kool-aid drinkers
26/07/2011 10:29:52 PM
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I don't mind them lying to themselves,but promoting the lie incites violent persecution complexes
26/07/2011 11:40:48 PM
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A suggestion
27/07/2011 03:30:14 AM
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Maybe.
27/07/2011 04:26:44 AM
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But there's a problem in all that
27/07/2011 12:45:24 PM
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In that response, "they" etc. specifically means the talking heads and their defenders.
27/07/2011 02:44:25 PM
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Bad Joel, you let this thread go out of hand
27/07/2011 09:29:19 PM
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I blame nested threads.
27/07/2011 09:39:04 PM
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Personally, I blame your need to have the final post in every conversation
27/07/2011 10:27:30 PM
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