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That part actually makes sense; both are anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment and anti-statist. Joel Send a noteboard - 26/07/2011 08:03:19 AM
The problem HERE is that Anders Breivik is very much pro-authority, pro-establishment and pro-state; he avowedly considers himself and his actions to be the vanguard of a counterattack against insurgent multiculturalism on behalf of civilized European society. I mean, seriously, how many anarchists have you heard of with multiple home made military uniforms, complete with insignia and decorations. How many "anarchist free masons" have you met? It's ridiculous; I'm hoping trzaska is just indulging his notorious troll habit, because otherwise he's not just "reality challenged", he's divorced from reality. What disturbs me, however, is that 1) Fox, Bolton and their ilk aren't (only) trolling and 2) unbalanced minds like Breiviks take in their extremist rhetoric as gospel, then put it into violent action. And the only response from the instigators is to accuse them of being on their victims side. Yeah, and Stalin was a laissez-faire capitalist. :sarcasm: Whether the people spouting this crap are as nuts as they act or just acting, there are many other undeniable nuts taking direction from them, with tragic results. Letting the guy blowing the bugle off the hook for the charge is simply not an option.
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Fox Condemns (Calling) Norways Right Wing Terrorist (a Right Wing Terrorist). - 26/07/2011 02:31:25 AM 1336 Views
Norway shooter = ultra left-wing anarchist *NM* - 26/07/2011 04:11:58 AM 385 Views
How exactly is anarchism ultra left-wing? *NM* - 26/07/2011 05:48:15 AM 382 Views
That part actually makes sense; both are anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment and anti-statist. - 26/07/2011 08:03:19 AM 493 Views
Well said - 26/07/2011 12:11:45 PM 404 Views
Thanks. - 26/07/2011 11:46:42 PM 433 Views
Re: Norway shooter = Christian fundamentalist - 26/07/2011 05:58:54 AM 444 Views
I'm not. - 26/07/2011 08:14:33 AM 609 Views
funny how we always keep hearing that Europe left isn't Ameircan left - 26/07/2011 01:18:57 PM 495 Views
No one called him "American right" - 26/07/2011 01:59:07 PM 435 Views
so why is the left complaining that the American right won't claim him? *NM* - 26/07/2011 02:06:44 PM 466 Views
They don't have to claim him. - 26/07/2011 02:08:37 PM 429 Views
Or the left could not use the massacre for political advantage and just call him mad man - 26/07/2011 03:29:20 PM 444 Views
I neither care nor am responsible for US media - 26/07/2011 03:57:08 PM 425 Views
this is an article about the US media or hadn't you noticed? - 26/07/2011 04:27:58 PM 405 Views
Just to be clear - 26/07/2011 04:42:04 PM 508 Views
Re: Just to be clear - 26/07/2011 04:46:47 PM 371 Views
just be clear I am not defending the argument that he a leftist - 26/07/2011 05:30:27 PM 422 Views
People seem to forget that there are several different kinds of Left & Right wing views. - 26/07/2011 06:23:37 PM 521 Views
sorry that sounds all nice and reasonable but it doesn't really represent reality - 26/07/2011 06:41:10 PM 526 Views
I get that it is an American TV station making this nonsensical statement, - 26/07/2011 06:50:36 PM 458 Views
once again I was referring to the use of the term in the US - 26/07/2011 08:30:48 PM 469 Views
Precisely. - 27/07/2011 12:00:33 AM 400 Views
I am not surprised that the left has wasted no time in local for poltical gain from tragedy - 26/07/2011 01:13:13 PM 411 Views
Yeah, how dare we horn in on your schtick. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:32:43 PM 371 Views
*NM* - 26/07/2011 08:51:23 PM 323 Views
- 26/07/2011 10:16:12 PM 405 Views
Ignorance is bliss? - 26/07/2011 11:08:53 AM 415 Views
Sometimes - 26/07/2011 08:01:27 PM 451 Views
He says (through his lawyer) ... - 26/07/2011 01:54:51 PM 474 Views
funny how when it is right wing wacko we always see that title applied - 26/07/2011 02:09:10 PM 414 Views
I have no idea what you're talking about. - 26/07/2011 03:55:13 PM 433 Views
Ted Kaczynski was a far left extremist - 26/07/2011 04:24:21 PM 422 Views
Now I see what you mean. - 26/07/2011 04:43:49 PM 411 Views
And Glenn Beck shows his usual good taste - 26/07/2011 09:11:34 AM 462 Views
I listened to that clip last night - 26/07/2011 10:26:24 AM 481 Views
Unbefuckinglievable *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:12:03 AM 352 Views
Oh, and he was also showing what a huge hypocrite he is - 26/07/2011 12:12:20 PM 491 Views
I don't want to keep saying "wow," but what else? - 26/07/2011 04:26:32 PM 425 Views
*NM* - 27/07/2011 01:49:02 AM 411 Views
why does Fox NEws makes liberals so stupid? - 26/07/2011 01:04:50 PM 478 Views
+1 - the mainstream media loves to jump to conclusions like in Arizona..... - 26/07/2011 01:13:12 PM 408 Views
Really? (+edit) - 26/07/2011 04:53:53 PM 371 Views
no the argument started when the media couldn't stop trying to hang him around the neck of the right - 26/07/2011 06:46:59 PM 541 Views
... - 26/07/2011 06:52:45 PM 545 Views
This was my point. - 26/07/2011 08:21:17 PM 385 Views
so are you pulling crap out of thin air now? - 26/07/2011 08:36:08 PM 489 Views
You need to take a few deep breaths and take a step back. - 26/07/2011 11:09:47 PM 336 Views
I may be frustrated but I think it is justified - 27/07/2011 12:11:09 AM 380 Views
I'm sorry if my comment was stupid. - 27/07/2011 04:38:47 PM 417 Views
I was just taken back a bit because I read it right after complementing you - 27/07/2011 06:05:38 PM 411 Views
Who is "traszka"? *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:33:49 PM 386 Views
'm going to try not to be offensive here, but the way I see it - 26/07/2011 04:35:54 PM 449 Views
I don't like Fox's opinion news shows and I don't watch them - 26/07/2011 06:21:01 PM 420 Views
Gah wrong place *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:32:07 PM 352 Views
BTW, you understand the American right are the only people on the PLANET who dispute he's far right? - 26/07/2011 11:21:59 PM 378 Views
Joel did you actually read what the Ambassador said? - 27/07/2011 12:37:39 AM 458 Views
He called it "speculation" that Breivik was part of right-wing extremism. - 27/07/2011 01:03:11 AM 458 Views
Joel you truly are unhinged so I am done *NM* - 27/07/2011 01:11:43 AM 403 Views
Fair enough. - 27/07/2011 01:17:43 AM 411 Views
Pretty funny - 26/07/2011 01:47:19 PM 478 Views
The worst shooting massacre in history is not "pretty funny". - 26/07/2011 11:33:59 PM 369 Views
You people all need to get a grip - 26/07/2011 08:33:01 PM 444 Views
+1 - I have no idea why Joel started this thread.....he is obsessed with labels. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:39:29 PM 424 Views
Try not replying next time, then. *NM* - 26/07/2011 10:10:27 PM 403 Views
That's what I'm trying to do. - 26/07/2011 10:05:29 PM 456 Views
Joel you are so full of shit - 26/07/2011 10:39:03 PM 383 Views
Read Joel's post title again, will you? - 26/07/2011 11:21:51 PM 506 Views
Oh please, Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:44:26 PM 451 Views
Quite. And I have every right to point out they're being insensitive jerks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:53:28 PM 450 Views
Bullshit - 27/07/2011 04:20:04 AM 454 Views
While I have no real interest in getting involved in the troll fest this post has turned in to - 27/07/2011 11:23:46 AM 423 Views
*NM* - 27/07/2011 11:50:02 AM 401 Views
I don't see any troll posts. Just discussions. - 27/07/2011 02:18:06 PM 451 Views
No trolling? And you include the first reply in that? - 27/07/2011 02:28:51 PM 477 Views
I don't know why Traska thinks that - 27/07/2011 07:37:50 PM 520 Views
yes Joel did an outstanding job of proving I wasn't being paranoid *NM* - 27/07/2011 02:35:05 PM 362 Views
I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled - 27/07/2011 04:00:27 PM 463 Views
Re: I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled - 27/07/2011 08:09:31 PM 511 Views
extremely offensive...makes them fearful... gives some people... another excuse to try&silence them - 27/07/2011 04:14:37 PM 500 Views
Well - 27/07/2011 04:27:25 PM 407 Views
Joel's title and Joel's post really don't have much in common - 26/07/2011 11:52:36 PM 417 Views
Not just some guest on Fox News, also Bushs UN Ambassador. - 27/07/2011 12:32:40 AM 387 Views
One of us is. - 27/07/2011 12:22:44 AM 440 Views
maybe Legolas is right and you are to close to this *NM* - 27/07/2011 12:39:29 AM 368 Views
Wibble, but maybe. - 27/07/2011 01:15:31 AM 488 Views
not really have you seen the main board? not much action. - 26/07/2011 10:40:21 PM 390 Views
A suggestion - 27/07/2011 03:30:14 AM 402 Views
Maybe. - 27/07/2011 04:26:44 AM 525 Views
But there's a problem in all that - 27/07/2011 12:45:24 PM 590 Views
O'Reilly Shreds Media for Calling Norway Terrorist 'Christian' - 27/07/2011 05:14:30 AM 546 Views
Bad Joel, you let this thread go out of hand - 27/07/2011 09:29:19 PM 416 Views
I blame nested threads. - 27/07/2011 09:39:04 PM 506 Views