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so why is the left complaining that the American right won't claim him? *NM* random thoughts Send a noteboard - 26/07/2011 02:06:44 PM
Now we see fained shock and horror when the American right doesn't want to claim an extremist European right winger. So explain in little words so a slow person like me can understand, how exactly did it come to be the American left doesn't = European left but American does = European right? Or is it just European racist, fascist mass murders o children that = American right? I can see why you would so upset that someone would not be willing to accept that.

He was called what he is, a extremist right racist who hates Islam and integration, and then some Americans came and felt they had to make sure that he better be called the opposite, because the word "right" can never be something bad, you know?
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Fox Condemns (Calling) Norways Right Wing Terrorist (a Right Wing Terrorist). Joel - 26/07/2011 02:31:25 AM 1346 Views
Norway shooter = ultra left-wing anarchist *NM* trzaska2000 - 26/07/2011 04:11:58 AM 393 Views
How exactly is anarchism ultra left-wing? *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 26/07/2011 05:48:15 AM 392 Views
That part actually makes sense; both are anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment and anti-statist. Joel - 26/07/2011 08:03:19 AM 501 Views
Well said ironclad - 26/07/2011 12:11:45 PM 414 Views
Thanks. Joel - 26/07/2011 11:46:42 PM 444 Views
Re: Norway shooter = Christian fundamentalist Helene - 26/07/2011 05:58:54 AM 454 Views
I'm not. Joel - 26/07/2011 08:14:33 AM 620 Views
funny how we always keep hearing that Europe left isn't Ameircan left random thoughts - 26/07/2011 01:18:57 PM 503 Views
No one called him "American right" ironclad - 26/07/2011 01:59:07 PM 442 Views
so why is the left complaining that the American right won't claim him? *NM* random thoughts - 26/07/2011 02:06:44 PM 474 Views
They don't have to claim him. ironclad - 26/07/2011 02:08:37 PM 439 Views
Or the left could not use the massacre for political advantage and just call him mad man random thoughts - 26/07/2011 03:29:20 PM 451 Views
I neither care nor am responsible for US media ironclad - 26/07/2011 03:57:08 PM 434 Views
this is an article about the US media or hadn't you noticed? random thoughts - 26/07/2011 04:27:58 PM 412 Views
Yes but I didn't reply to the main article, but to Trzaska being ignorant ironclad - 26/07/2011 04:36:52 PM 505 Views
Just to be clear ironclad - 26/07/2011 04:42:04 PM 515 Views
Re: Just to be clear nossy - 26/07/2011 04:46:47 PM 377 Views
just be clear I am not defending the argument that he a leftist random thoughts - 26/07/2011 05:30:27 PM 431 Views
People seem to forget that there are several different kinds of Left & Right wing views. Rebekah - 26/07/2011 06:23:37 PM 527 Views
sorry that sounds all nice and reasonable but it doesn't really represent reality random thoughts - 26/07/2011 06:41:10 PM 535 Views
I get that it is an American TV station making this nonsensical statement, Rebekah - 26/07/2011 06:50:36 PM 463 Views
once again I was referring to the use of the term in the US random thoughts - 26/07/2011 08:30:48 PM 475 Views
Precisely. Joel - 27/07/2011 12:00:33 AM 408 Views
See, the thing with an extremist, is that he doesn't have all that much in common with jh - 26/07/2011 03:59:05 PM 469 Views
I am not defending the argument that he was a leftist in anyway random thoughts - 26/07/2011 04:35:05 PM 472 Views
A right OR left wing extremist is just that; that's why your mouthpieces are so defensive. Joel - 26/07/2011 10:40:46 PM 586 Views
I am not surprised that the left has wasted no time in local for poltical gain from tragedy random thoughts - 26/07/2011 01:13:13 PM 421 Views
Yeah, how dare we horn in on your schtick. *NM* Dannymac - 26/07/2011 08:32:43 PM 380 Views
*NM* Aisha - 26/07/2011 08:51:23 PM 327 Views
random thoughts - 26/07/2011 10:16:12 PM 414 Views
He murders kids because they're liberal, you spit on their graves: You both belong in an asylum. Joel - 26/07/2011 07:54:08 AM 470 Views
Ignorance is bliss? ironclad - 26/07/2011 11:08:53 AM 422 Views
Sometimes Isaac - 26/07/2011 08:01:27 PM 460 Views
Aaaaaaand you are back on my ignore list. Thanks for confirming my original instincts were right. *NM* Camilla - 26/07/2011 11:18:25 AM 289 Views
He says (through his lawyer) ... Nate - 26/07/2011 01:54:51 PM 481 Views
funny how when it is right wing wacko we always see that title applied random thoughts - 26/07/2011 02:09:10 PM 423 Views
I have no idea what you're talking about. Nate - 26/07/2011 03:55:13 PM 441 Views
Ted Kaczynski was a far left extremist random thoughts - 26/07/2011 04:24:21 PM 430 Views
Now I see what you mean. Nate - 26/07/2011 04:43:49 PM 419 Views
I would argue that his actions were tied to his beliefs on the specific issue of immigration random thoughts - 26/07/2011 06:11:23 PM 347 Views
And Glenn Beck shows his usual good taste Camilla - 26/07/2011 09:11:34 AM 471 Views
I listened to that clip last night snoopcester - 26/07/2011 10:26:24 AM 486 Views
I'm seriously wondering if attacking the victims here will be the tipping point for US fascists. Joel - 26/07/2011 10:30:33 AM 400 Views
Unbefuckinglievable *NM* ironclad - 26/07/2011 11:12:03 AM 359 Views
Oh, and he was also showing what a huge hypocrite he is snoopcester - 26/07/2011 12:12:20 PM 499 Views
I don't want to keep saying "wow," but what else? nossy - 26/07/2011 04:26:32 PM 454 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 27/07/2011 01:49:02 AM 429 Views
why does Fox NEws makes liberals so stupid? random thoughts - 26/07/2011 01:04:50 PM 488 Views
+1 - the mainstream media loves to jump to conclusions like in Arizona..... trzaska2000 - 26/07/2011 01:13:12 PM 416 Views
Really? (+edit) nossy - 26/07/2011 04:53:53 PM 380 Views
no the argument started when the media couldn't stop trying to hang him around the neck of the right random thoughts - 26/07/2011 06:46:59 PM 548 Views
... Rebekah - 26/07/2011 06:52:45 PM 554 Views
if the term doesn't fit in the US then it makes no sense for US media to use the term here random thoughts - 26/07/2011 08:14:40 PM 367 Views
This was my point. nossy - 26/07/2011 08:21:17 PM 392 Views
so are you pulling crap out of thin air now? random thoughts - 26/07/2011 08:36:08 PM 497 Views
You need to take a few deep breaths and take a step back. Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:09:47 PM 343 Views
I may be frustrated but I think it is justified random thoughts - 27/07/2011 12:11:09 AM 388 Views
I'm sorry if my comment was stupid. nossy - 27/07/2011 04:38:47 PM 426 Views
I was just taken back a bit because I read it right after complementing you random thoughts - 27/07/2011 06:05:38 PM 420 Views
Who is "traszka"? *NM* trzaska2000 - 26/07/2011 08:33:49 PM 395 Views
'm going to try not to be offensive here, but the way I see it nossy - 26/07/2011 04:35:54 PM 456 Views
I don't like Fox's opinion news shows and I don't watch them random thoughts - 26/07/2011 06:21:01 PM 427 Views
Gah wrong place *NM* Wibble - 26/07/2011 08:32:07 PM 359 Views
It's the liberals fault they were murdered; I get that that's the American far right argument. Joel - 26/07/2011 11:09:25 PM 504 Views
BTW, you understand the American right are the only people on the PLANET who dispute he's far right? Joel - 26/07/2011 11:21:59 PM 386 Views
Joel did you actually read what the Ambassador said? random thoughts - 27/07/2011 12:37:39 AM 466 Views
He called it "speculation" that Breivik was part of right-wing extremism. Joel - 27/07/2011 01:03:11 AM 467 Views
Joel you truly are unhinged so I am done *NM* random thoughts - 27/07/2011 01:11:43 AM 413 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 27/07/2011 01:17:43 AM 418 Views
Pretty funny dart_board - 26/07/2011 01:47:19 PM 547 Views
The worst shooting massacre in history is not "pretty funny". Joel - 26/07/2011 11:33:59 PM 378 Views
Wow. Let's just make this about us, why don't we? nossy - 26/07/2011 04:19:06 PM 552 Views
oh please the left is one trying to make about the right random thoughts - 26/07/2011 04:36:39 PM 504 Views
I'm referring to all Americans (both sides) who are currently fighting this out. nossy - 26/07/2011 04:44:45 PM 395 Views
I agree 100% that this issue shouldn't be used in American politics random thoughts - 26/07/2011 06:33:48 PM 467 Views
To Hell with them; even the normally indulgent American public will put them in a rubber room soon. Joel - 26/07/2011 11:36:13 PM 448 Views
You people all need to get a grip Wibble - 26/07/2011 08:33:01 PM 456 Views
+1 - I have no idea why Joel started this thread.....he is obsessed with labels. *NM* trzaska2000 - 26/07/2011 08:39:29 PM 430 Views
Try not replying next time, then. *NM* Stephen - 26/07/2011 10:10:27 PM 409 Views
No, you do not agree with what Wibble said. Your +1 makes zero sense. *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:11:31 PM 338 Views
That's what I'm trying to do. Joel - 26/07/2011 10:05:29 PM 466 Views
You are too close to this just now. Wibble - 26/07/2011 10:17:22 PM 430 Views
Probably,but that it happened in perhaps the safest most liberal place on Earth makes it inescapable Joel - 27/07/2011 12:26:45 AM 484 Views
Joel you are so full of shit random thoughts - 26/07/2011 10:39:03 PM 392 Views
Read Joel's post title again, will you? Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:21:51 PM 515 Views
Oh please, Legolas ßelals Girl - 26/07/2011 11:44:26 PM 458 Views
Quite. And I have every right to point out they're being insensitive jerks. *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:53:28 PM 458 Views
Bullshit ßelals Girl - 27/07/2011 04:20:04 AM 460 Views
For the record, I've always supported guns for self defense (and hunting, and liberty from tyranny). Joel - 27/07/2011 10:52:02 AM 485 Views
While I have no real interest in getting involved in the troll fest this post has turned in to snoopcester - 27/07/2011 11:23:46 AM 432 Views
*NM* ironclad - 27/07/2011 11:50:02 AM 408 Views
I don't see any troll posts. Just discussions. ßelals Girl - 27/07/2011 02:18:06 PM 458 Views
No trolling? And you include the first reply in that? snoopcester - 27/07/2011 02:28:51 PM 484 Views
so is the troll the person who makes the point or is the people who refuse to acknowledge it random thoughts - 27/07/2011 02:41:31 PM 374 Views
Do you think trz was right to call him an ultra left wing anarchist? nossy - 27/07/2011 04:15:50 PM 423 Views
I assumed he was referring to me when talked about picking fights with people random thoughts - 27/07/2011 05:53:43 PM 449 Views
I don't know why Traska thinks that ßelals Girl - 27/07/2011 07:37:50 PM 530 Views
yes Joel did an outstanding job of proving I wasn't being paranoid *NM* random thoughts - 27/07/2011 02:35:05 PM 370 Views
I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled nossy - 27/07/2011 04:00:27 PM 471 Views
Re: I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled ßelals Girl - 27/07/2011 08:09:31 PM 520 Views
extremely offensive...makes them fearful... gives some people... another excuse to try&silence them Joel - 27/07/2011 04:14:37 PM 510 Views
Well nossy - 27/07/2011 04:27:25 PM 414 Views
Joel's title and Joel's post really don't have much in common random thoughts - 26/07/2011 11:52:36 PM 426 Views
Not just some guest on Fox News, also Bushs UN Ambassador. Joel - 27/07/2011 12:32:40 AM 396 Views
One of us is. Joel - 27/07/2011 12:22:44 AM 446 Views
maybe Legolas is right and you are to close to this *NM* random thoughts - 27/07/2011 12:39:29 AM 374 Views
Wibble, but maybe. Joel - 27/07/2011 01:15:31 AM 500 Views
not really have you seen the main board? not much action. random thoughts - 26/07/2011 10:40:21 PM 400 Views
Anyone saying Brevik has nothing in common with the American "Right" is lying to themselves Aisha - 26/07/2011 08:49:29 PM 446 Views
glad you could come along, someone has to represent the ignorant kool-aid drinkers random thoughts - 26/07/2011 10:29:52 PM 405 Views
Not helping. Really not helping. *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:22:53 PM 412 Views
I don't mind them lying to themselves,but promoting the lie incites violent persecution complexes Joel - 26/07/2011 11:40:48 PM 477 Views
A suggestion Larry - 27/07/2011 03:30:14 AM 409 Views
Maybe. Joel - 27/07/2011 04:26:44 AM 534 Views
But there's a problem in all that Larry - 27/07/2011 12:45:24 PM 598 Views
In that response, "they" etc. specifically means the talking heads and their defenders. Joel - 27/07/2011 02:44:25 PM 401 Views
O'Reilly Shreds Media for Calling Norway Terrorist 'Christian' Joel - 27/07/2011 05:14:30 AM 554 Views
Bad Joel, you let this thread go out of hand Roland00 - 27/07/2011 09:29:19 PM 426 Views
I blame nested threads. Joel - 27/07/2011 09:39:04 PM 514 Views
Personally, I blame your need to have the final post in every conversation Postsecret - 27/07/2011 10:27:30 PM 448 Views
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