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About "proposing new legislation" beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 18/01/2012 04:45:08 PM
I've noticed you keep things along the lines of "Well, SOMETHING has to be passed, so what should a 'good' law have?"

And really, nothing has to be passed.

It's not like this is some issue that's tearing at America. There's a reason that none of the proponents of this bill were calling attention to it, campaigning on promises of stricter copyright and Internet regulation.

The reason these bills have appeared is because the world of media and content is changing, and big, 20th century institutions (like the MPAA, but really any giant content provider) are having trouble adapting. And instead of trying to adapt, they're scared, and fighting.

This isn't a particularly revolutionary statement. When was the last time you went to the movies? Or bought a movie? For me, between TiVo, Netflix, and streaming content online (from official sources), the answer is almost never.


So, this isn't some titantic moral battle between the forces of the Fair and the Just and the forces of Evil Hackers. It's not about the US correcting a great injustice in the world.

It's an economic issue. It's like a pager manufacturer trying to introduce some desperate legislation against cell phones.
I amuse myself.
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English Wikipedia Anti-SOPA Blackout - 17/01/2012 08:31:46 AM 2053 Views
Yeah, man, because currently copyright holders have no recourse, am I right? - 17/01/2012 11:47:35 AM 881 Views
"altering the infrastructure of the Internet so as to render RAFO virtually inaccessible"? - 17/01/2012 08:12:27 PM 992 Views
I'll go ahead and ask before I get my panties in a bunch: do you understand these bills? - 17/01/2012 09:09:22 PM 1070 Views
I admit I have not looked into it much - 17/01/2012 11:42:30 PM 939 Views
And yet you're still arguing the matter. - 18/01/2012 02:34:04 AM 1049 Views
I love you. *NM* - 18/01/2012 03:41:03 AM 609 Views
heh, thanks. I usually find myself pushing minority opinions. Nice to be "appreciated" for once. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:01:10 AM 587 Views
Can i second the adulation? - 18/01/2012 04:07:17 AM 777 Views
I too (three?) appreciate the common sense and reasonable explanations. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:12:59 AM 597 Views
Thanks guys. - 18/01/2012 04:39:00 AM 933 Views
Right, because the argument is not just over THIS bill but, apparently, over ANY bill. - 18/01/2012 11:09:13 AM 938 Views
Alternatives to SOPA/PIPA have been proposed for months now. Please stop arguing this. - 18/01/2012 05:42:10 PM 895 Views
That is really all I ask. - 18/01/2012 06:26:37 PM 930 Views
"sensitive federal content"? Provide a source justifying this claim and it's relevance, please. - 18/01/2012 05:59:47 PM 951 Views
I would not have thought a source necessary. - 18/01/2012 06:24:44 PM 953 Views
Okay, I'm with Aemon now. - 18/01/2012 07:36:21 PM 969 Views
OK. - 18/01/2012 10:16:16 PM 991 Views
Surreal. It's like you're a spam-bot or something. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:23:35 AM 723 Views
That was constructive. - 19/01/2012 03:29:53 PM 868 Views
Very nicely summarised. *NM* - 18/01/2012 02:06:02 AM 528 Views
should be interesting - 17/01/2012 12:41:47 PM 818 Views
Could be; depends on a lot of factors. - 17/01/2012 07:38:55 PM 879 Views
See, that's one of the biggest problems that people aren't understanding. - 17/01/2012 09:31:38 PM 894 Views
So tell them that. - 17/01/2012 11:54:19 PM 1035 Views
Could've done without the snide rejoinder, but, good. - 17/01/2012 02:20:08 PM 819 Views
I love the black banner, like some kind of internet Holocaust. - 17/01/2012 08:03:27 PM 958 Views
Are you aware that SOPA/PIPA has nothing to do with hackers and everything to do with copyright? - 18/01/2012 02:08:56 AM 799 Views
There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 01:08:22 PM 922 Views
Re: There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 08:13:15 PM 796 Views
Er, what Ghav said. - 18/01/2012 02:30:37 AM 822 Views
Sorry, protecting Pirate Bay and offshore gambling are not compelling counterarguments. - 18/01/2012 11:38:08 AM 869 Views
Okay, another analogy: - 18/01/2012 02:04:12 PM 847 Views
A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP - 18/01/2012 08:32:44 AM 828 Views
"As a disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, I'm a sysadmin." - 18/01/2012 12:47:16 PM 1087 Views
wow, you are totally correct! - 18/01/2012 03:45:54 PM 859 Views
That is a separate issue. - 18/01/2012 04:01:24 PM 859 Views
Thank you for posting that. - 18/01/2012 03:09:07 PM 883 Views
Wikipedia has already convinced me - 18/01/2012 03:26:01 PM 708 Views
Trying to stop this legislation without proposing an alternative is trying to stop ANY legislation. - 18/01/2012 03:44:18 PM 934 Views
It isn't their job to propose legislation - 18/01/2012 04:12:53 PM 854 Views
No, but they have as much RIGHT to do so as anyone else. - 18/01/2012 05:31:55 PM 832 Views
Strike three. - 18/01/2012 05:37:55 PM 881 Views
That is fine; that is what people SHOULD be doing. - 18/01/2012 06:03:59 PM 706 Views
Things being better now than they would be under SOPA seems like a legitimate argument to me - 18/01/2012 09:04:18 PM 970 Views
Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 18/01/2012 10:46:48 PM 812 Views
Re: Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 19/01/2012 12:15:48 AM 889 Views
That is a poor approach to drafting legislation, at best. - 19/01/2012 04:37:22 PM 933 Views
About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 04:45:08 PM 968 Views
So true - 18/01/2012 05:08:45 PM 901 Views
Not to go off on a tangent about combatting piracy... - 18/01/2012 05:38:12 PM 807 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:13:13 PM 579 Views
That was an excellent post. *NM* - 19/01/2012 11:18:19 PM 559 Views
Re: About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 05:59:55 PM 1043 Views
For those who want a short, one page explanation... - 18/01/2012 05:41:49 PM 825 Views
Yeah, so I use Russian wikipedia for a day. Or German wikipedia, or French, or Italian... *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:23:36 PM 646 Views
We get it: You are a polyglot. - 18/01/2012 06:27:48 PM 834 Views
Or just hit stop right before the script runs. *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:52:40 PM 614 Views
Or just disable Java. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:58:03 AM 495 Views
That's not as much fun though. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:13:44 AM 610 Views
Exactly, this way its kind of a game. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:20:37 AM 435 Views
Or Answers.com, or even the actual sources that are often copy/pasted into Wikipedia... - 19/01/2012 01:07:38 AM 956 Views
They all did it on twitter - 19/01/2012 01:26:19 AM 888 Views
I was asleep much of the day - 19/01/2012 02:40:11 AM 954 Views
Oh, no; now Congress will be inundated with complaints from lazy college students! - 19/01/2012 04:40:12 PM 981 Views
13 previously unopposed senators now do not support SOPA. - 19/01/2012 11:36:15 PM 933 Views
How does that "rebutt" what was a facetious post in the first place? - 20/01/2012 09:24:27 PM 1040 Views
a joke can, indeed, be rebutted... - 21/01/2012 09:07:32 PM 920 Views
Oh, draggie, I ALWAYS see what you do there. - 21/01/2012 10:01:58 PM 878 Views

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