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So true ironclad Send a noteboard - 18/01/2012 05:08:45 PM
The reason these bills have appeared is because the world of media and content is changing, and big, 20th century institutions (like the MPAA, but really any giant content provider) are having trouble adapting. And instead of trying to adapt, they're scared, and fighting.

Exactly.

They notice they can't win as it is now and try to change the game. Well, guess what. They shouldn't win until they come up with rules everyone can agree on. People will always find ways to download songs and movies, stream shows. Hell, I hope they do. The task is to come up with ideas how everyone can benefit from it (for example flat rates). Turning millions of people who download illegally into major criminals is not the way. The European pirate parties know this, but they are still few and not loud enough.


This isn't a particularly revolutionary statement. When was the last time you went to the movies? Or bought a movie? For me, between TiVo, Netflix, and streaming content online (from official sources), the answer is almost never.

I fear that is so. While that is not true for me, the fact remains: habits have changed and it'll stay that way, the law has to catch up without turning everyone into a criminal.

It's an economic issue. It's like a pager manufacturer trying to introduce some desperate legislation against cell phones.

hehe :thumbsup:
*MySmiley*

You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.
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English Wikipedia Anti-SOPA Blackout - 17/01/2012 08:31:46 AM 2305 Views
Yeah, man, because currently copyright holders have no recourse, am I right? - 17/01/2012 11:47:35 AM 1132 Views
"altering the infrastructure of the Internet so as to render RAFO virtually inaccessible"? - 17/01/2012 08:12:27 PM 1225 Views
I'll go ahead and ask before I get my panties in a bunch: do you understand these bills? - 17/01/2012 09:09:22 PM 1331 Views
I admit I have not looked into it much - 17/01/2012 11:42:30 PM 1193 Views
And yet you're still arguing the matter. - 18/01/2012 02:34:04 AM 1285 Views
I love you. *NM* - 18/01/2012 03:41:03 AM 712 Views
heh, thanks. I usually find myself pushing minority opinions. Nice to be "appreciated" for once. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:01:10 AM 693 Views
Can i second the adulation? - 18/01/2012 04:07:17 AM 990 Views
I too (three?) appreciate the common sense and reasonable explanations. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:12:59 AM 687 Views
Thanks guys. - 18/01/2012 04:39:00 AM 1165 Views
Right, because the argument is not just over THIS bill but, apparently, over ANY bill. - 18/01/2012 11:09:13 AM 1177 Views
Alternatives to SOPA/PIPA have been proposed for months now. Please stop arguing this. - 18/01/2012 05:42:10 PM 1095 Views
That is really all I ask. - 18/01/2012 06:26:37 PM 1178 Views
"sensitive federal content"? Provide a source justifying this claim and it's relevance, please. - 18/01/2012 05:59:47 PM 1203 Views
I would not have thought a source necessary. - 18/01/2012 06:24:44 PM 1197 Views
Okay, I'm with Aemon now. - 18/01/2012 07:36:21 PM 1195 Views
OK. - 18/01/2012 10:16:16 PM 1227 Views
Surreal. It's like you're a spam-bot or something. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:23:35 AM 827 Views
That was constructive. - 19/01/2012 03:29:53 PM 1111 Views
Very nicely summarised. *NM* - 18/01/2012 02:06:02 AM 627 Views
should be interesting - 17/01/2012 12:41:47 PM 1060 Views
Could be; depends on a lot of factors. - 17/01/2012 07:38:55 PM 1123 Views
See, that's one of the biggest problems that people aren't understanding. - 17/01/2012 09:31:38 PM 1136 Views
So tell them that. - 17/01/2012 11:54:19 PM 1290 Views
Could've done without the snide rejoinder, but, good. - 17/01/2012 02:20:08 PM 1042 Views
I love the black banner, like some kind of internet Holocaust. - 17/01/2012 08:03:27 PM 1192 Views
Are you aware that SOPA/PIPA has nothing to do with hackers and everything to do with copyright? - 18/01/2012 02:08:56 AM 1039 Views
There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 01:08:22 PM 1161 Views
Re: There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 08:13:15 PM 1057 Views
Re: There still seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 10:27:32 PM 1322 Views
Er, what Ghav said. - 18/01/2012 02:30:37 AM 1084 Views
Sorry, protecting Pirate Bay and offshore gambling are not compelling counterarguments. - 18/01/2012 11:38:08 AM 1112 Views
Okay, another analogy: - 18/01/2012 02:04:12 PM 1082 Views
A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP - 18/01/2012 08:32:44 AM 1079 Views
"As a disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, I'm a sysadmin." - 18/01/2012 12:47:16 PM 1326 Views
wow, you are totally correct! - 18/01/2012 03:45:54 PM 1063 Views
That is a separate issue. - 18/01/2012 04:01:24 PM 1087 Views
Thank you for posting that. - 18/01/2012 03:09:07 PM 1119 Views
Wikipedia has already convinced me - 18/01/2012 03:26:01 PM 951 Views
Trying to stop this legislation without proposing an alternative is trying to stop ANY legislation. - 18/01/2012 03:44:18 PM 1158 Views
It isn't their job to propose legislation - 18/01/2012 04:12:53 PM 1080 Views
No, but they have as much RIGHT to do so as anyone else. - 18/01/2012 05:31:55 PM 1062 Views
Strike three. - 18/01/2012 05:37:55 PM 1146 Views
That is fine; that is what people SHOULD be doing. - 18/01/2012 06:03:59 PM 943 Views
Things being better now than they would be under SOPA seems like a legitimate argument to me - 18/01/2012 09:04:18 PM 1206 Views
Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 18/01/2012 10:46:48 PM 1071 Views
Re: Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 19/01/2012 12:15:48 AM 1123 Views
That is a poor approach to drafting legislation, at best. - 19/01/2012 04:37:22 PM 1158 Views
About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 04:45:08 PM 1197 Views
So true - 18/01/2012 05:08:45 PM 1146 Views
Not to go off on a tangent about combatting piracy... - 18/01/2012 05:38:12 PM 1070 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:13:13 PM 686 Views
That was an excellent post. *NM* - 19/01/2012 11:18:19 PM 675 Views
Re: About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 05:59:55 PM 1296 Views
Hm, you should read my post one above about combatting online piracy. - 18/01/2012 06:20:16 PM 1224 Views
For those who want a short, one page explanation... - 18/01/2012 05:41:49 PM 1089 Views
Yeah, so I use Russian wikipedia for a day. Or German wikipedia, or French, or Italian... *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:23:36 PM 748 Views
We get it: You are a polyglot. - 18/01/2012 06:27:48 PM 1061 Views
Or just hit stop right before the script runs. *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:52:40 PM 731 Views
Or just disable Java. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:58:03 AM 597 Views
That's not as much fun though. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:13:44 AM 723 Views
Exactly, this way its kind of a game. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:20:37 AM 534 Views
Or Answers.com, or even the actual sources that are often copy/pasted into Wikipedia... - 19/01/2012 01:07:38 AM 1160 Views
They all did it on twitter - 19/01/2012 01:26:19 AM 1102 Views
I was asleep much of the day - 19/01/2012 02:40:11 AM 1158 Views
Oh, no; now Congress will be inundated with complaints from lazy college students! - 19/01/2012 04:40:12 PM 1208 Views
13 previously unopposed senators now do not support SOPA. - 19/01/2012 11:36:15 PM 1186 Views
How does that "rebutt" what was a facetious post in the first place? - 20/01/2012 09:24:27 PM 1271 Views
a joke can, indeed, be rebutted... - 21/01/2012 09:07:32 PM 1179 Views
Oh, draggie, I ALWAYS see what you do there. - 21/01/2012 10:01:58 PM 1122 Views

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