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Not to blame, neccessarily. But you have to live in the real world. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 18/01/2012 07:31:18 PM
It's a simple reality that it's easy to copy things nowadays. In the end, everything can be reduced to a number. Copying music, games, and everything else is hard to stop.

For the last few decades, publishers' attempt to stop piracy has been to attempt to make things more difficult for pirates. I listed some in my post above. There have been dozens of methods: CD keys. Code words to read in a manual. Special dongles to plug in while using the product. CDs that dissolve after a few days. MP3s that are hardcoded to your computer (making backing them up, or moving to a new computer, impossible), services where your computer must always be on, invisible background programs that secretly monitor your computer (don't laugh, Sony did it).

And all were ineffective against illegal copying, but all were extremely effective at making life difficult for people who legally bought the products.

The problem is that, due to the nature of piracy, pretty much the only people that anti-piracy measures work on are people who don't know how to pirate something.


So, that said, what can you do? Obviously content creators want to make money from their product, but the nature of that product means that it's impossible to prevent someone from copying it if they really want to.

SOPA won't help- as has been said, anyone with knowledge of DNS can get to a site that's been blacklisted. And there are plenty of piracy techniques that don't rely on getting a file from a centralized web site.

As I've said, the way to mitigate piracy is by making things cheaper and easy to access. Steam did it- it's revolutionized the PC gaming industry. Netflix did it- it's become such a powerhouse success story that people are sitting up and taking a sharp interest.

SOPA is just the latest example of increasingly drastic- and relatively useless- attempts by publishers to deal with piracy (see Sony's "let's install secret software" ploy). They're using a 1950s mindset to deal with a world where everything is information that can be broken down and copied- and that's why it's not successful.




(As a side note, I don't know how informed you are, but the whole piracy debate is one that has been long running, with a lot of interesting arguments. For one thing, it's extremely debatable as to how much piracy actually takes away from profits- for example, if someone who couldn't afford to buy a game pirates something, no income has been lost. Other factors include building customer loyalty through no DRM, and building groundswell support through word of mouth.

I don't necessarily support all those arguments- with the rise of Netflix and Steam (and securing a job), I pirate maybe 5% of what I do, compared to maybe 60% 5 years ago. But it's an interesting topic, and doesn't easily boil down to "MORE DRM TO FIGHT THE HACKERS!";)
I amuse myself.
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English Wikipedia Anti-SOPA Blackout - 17/01/2012 08:31:46 AM 2309 Views
Yeah, man, because currently copyright holders have no recourse, am I right? - 17/01/2012 11:47:35 AM 1134 Views
"altering the infrastructure of the Internet so as to render RAFO virtually inaccessible"? - 17/01/2012 08:12:27 PM 1227 Views
I'll go ahead and ask before I get my panties in a bunch: do you understand these bills? - 17/01/2012 09:09:22 PM 1334 Views
I admit I have not looked into it much - 17/01/2012 11:42:30 PM 1197 Views
And yet you're still arguing the matter. - 18/01/2012 02:34:04 AM 1287 Views
I love you. *NM* - 18/01/2012 03:41:03 AM 712 Views
heh, thanks. I usually find myself pushing minority opinions. Nice to be "appreciated" for once. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:01:10 AM 693 Views
Can i second the adulation? - 18/01/2012 04:07:17 AM 993 Views
I too (three?) appreciate the common sense and reasonable explanations. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:12:59 AM 687 Views
Thanks guys. - 18/01/2012 04:39:00 AM 1168 Views
Right, because the argument is not just over THIS bill but, apparently, over ANY bill. - 18/01/2012 11:09:13 AM 1177 Views
Alternatives to SOPA/PIPA have been proposed for months now. Please stop arguing this. - 18/01/2012 05:42:10 PM 1095 Views
That is really all I ask. - 18/01/2012 06:26:37 PM 1181 Views
"sensitive federal content"? Provide a source justifying this claim and it's relevance, please. - 18/01/2012 05:59:47 PM 1203 Views
I would not have thought a source necessary. - 18/01/2012 06:24:44 PM 1200 Views
Okay, I'm with Aemon now. - 18/01/2012 07:36:21 PM 1197 Views
OK. - 18/01/2012 10:16:16 PM 1230 Views
Surreal. It's like you're a spam-bot or something. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:23:35 AM 827 Views
That was constructive. - 19/01/2012 03:29:53 PM 1113 Views
Very nicely summarised. *NM* - 18/01/2012 02:06:02 AM 627 Views
should be interesting - 17/01/2012 12:41:47 PM 1063 Views
Could be; depends on a lot of factors. - 17/01/2012 07:38:55 PM 1127 Views
See, that's one of the biggest problems that people aren't understanding. - 17/01/2012 09:31:38 PM 1138 Views
So tell them that. - 17/01/2012 11:54:19 PM 1293 Views
Could've done without the snide rejoinder, but, good. - 17/01/2012 02:20:08 PM 1046 Views
I love the black banner, like some kind of internet Holocaust. - 17/01/2012 08:03:27 PM 1195 Views
Are you aware that SOPA/PIPA has nothing to do with hackers and everything to do with copyright? - 18/01/2012 02:08:56 AM 1043 Views
There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 01:08:22 PM 1163 Views
Re: There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 08:13:15 PM 1061 Views
Re: There still seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 10:27:32 PM 1325 Views
Er, what Ghav said. - 18/01/2012 02:30:37 AM 1086 Views
Sorry, protecting Pirate Bay and offshore gambling are not compelling counterarguments. - 18/01/2012 11:38:08 AM 1114 Views
Okay, another analogy: - 18/01/2012 02:04:12 PM 1082 Views
A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP - 18/01/2012 08:32:44 AM 1080 Views
"As a disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, I'm a sysadmin." - 18/01/2012 12:47:16 PM 1326 Views
wow, you are totally correct! - 18/01/2012 03:45:54 PM 1064 Views
That is a separate issue. - 18/01/2012 04:01:24 PM 1089 Views
Thank you for posting that. - 18/01/2012 03:09:07 PM 1119 Views
Wikipedia has already convinced me - 18/01/2012 03:26:01 PM 951 Views
Trying to stop this legislation without proposing an alternative is trying to stop ANY legislation. - 18/01/2012 03:44:18 PM 1159 Views
It isn't their job to propose legislation - 18/01/2012 04:12:53 PM 1081 Views
No, but they have as much RIGHT to do so as anyone else. - 18/01/2012 05:31:55 PM 1062 Views
Strike three. - 18/01/2012 05:37:55 PM 1147 Views
That is fine; that is what people SHOULD be doing. - 18/01/2012 06:03:59 PM 947 Views
Things being better now than they would be under SOPA seems like a legitimate argument to me - 18/01/2012 09:04:18 PM 1209 Views
Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 18/01/2012 10:46:48 PM 1073 Views
Re: Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 19/01/2012 12:15:48 AM 1127 Views
That is a poor approach to drafting legislation, at best. - 19/01/2012 04:37:22 PM 1161 Views
About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 04:45:08 PM 1199 Views
So true - 18/01/2012 05:08:45 PM 1147 Views
Not to go off on a tangent about combatting piracy... - 18/01/2012 05:38:12 PM 1072 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:13:13 PM 686 Views
That was an excellent post. *NM* - 19/01/2012 11:18:19 PM 675 Views
Re: About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 05:59:55 PM 1297 Views
Hm, you should read my post one above about combatting online piracy. - 18/01/2012 06:20:16 PM 1226 Views
I would not recommend photocopying a book and handing it out on street corners. - 18/01/2012 06:45:52 PM 1161 Views
Not to blame, neccessarily. But you have to live in the real world. - 18/01/2012 07:31:18 PM 1103 Views
Re: Not to blame, neccessarily. But you have to live in the real world. - 18/01/2012 08:55:59 PM 1163 Views
I always liked the codewheels SSI provided with copies of their Gold Box AD&D games. - 18/01/2012 10:07:40 PM 1312 Views
These are really different arguments - 19/01/2012 12:05:10 AM 1062 Views
For those who want a short, one page explanation... - 18/01/2012 05:41:49 PM 1093 Views
Yeah, so I use Russian wikipedia for a day. Or German wikipedia, or French, or Italian... *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:23:36 PM 748 Views
We get it: You are a polyglot. - 18/01/2012 06:27:48 PM 1063 Views
Or just hit stop right before the script runs. *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:52:40 PM 731 Views
Or just disable Java. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:58:03 AM 597 Views
That's not as much fun though. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:13:44 AM 723 Views
Exactly, this way its kind of a game. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:20:37 AM 534 Views
Or Answers.com, or even the actual sources that are often copy/pasted into Wikipedia... - 19/01/2012 01:07:38 AM 1163 Views
They all did it on twitter - 19/01/2012 01:26:19 AM 1103 Views
I was asleep much of the day - 19/01/2012 02:40:11 AM 1161 Views
Oh, no; now Congress will be inundated with complaints from lazy college students! - 19/01/2012 04:40:12 PM 1211 Views
13 previously unopposed senators now do not support SOPA. - 19/01/2012 11:36:15 PM 1189 Views
How does that "rebutt" what was a facetious post in the first place? - 20/01/2012 09:24:27 PM 1272 Views
a joke can, indeed, be rebutted... - 21/01/2012 09:07:32 PM 1180 Views
Oh, draggie, I ALWAYS see what you do there. - 21/01/2012 10:01:58 PM 1126 Views

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