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LMAO due to Obama's compromise (the word compromise should have a in it ) Roland00 Send a noteboard - 11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM
Pretty much he has done accounting math to obtain everything he wanted but get rid of the complaints.

1) Contraception services are required to be paid for by your employer unless your employer complains
2) If your employer complains then the insurance company must pay for the contraception cost, NEVER should the individual beneficary pay for the contraception cost (contraception costs the insurance company about $21.40 but if you buy it without insurance that price is marked up to $95 dollars.)
2b) The reason why insurance companies be forced to pay for this is that this in fact cost neutral for the insurance companies since $21.40 a month is a lot cheaper than the doctor visit costs for a pregnancy. Statistically in the end it saves the insurance company money.
2c) If an insurance company does not pay for contraception for free than they can't participate in the future 2014 insurance exchanges. Insurance exchanges will exist if a company doesn't provide insurance for individuals, people who do not get insurance from their work must buy insurance from one of these exchanges (or pay a minor tax fine) if they make less than 40k for an individual, 58k family of 2, 74k family of 3, 89k for a family of 4 (400% of family poverty line) they will get a sliding scale subsidy from the government.

In reality though money is fungible, and while in the long run money may be saved by less babies being born due to the "evil of contraception" churches are still paying for that "evil contraception."


LMAO for Obama has just got two weeks of free media coverage creating telling women I am going to pay for your birth control pills. Furthermore people who are iffy on where they stand on this issue now see he has "solved" this fake problem and look perfectly reasonable in the process.
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Democrats bailing on Obama - War against the Catholic Church heats up - 09/02/2012 04:03:35 AM 809 Views
This is not a war on Catholics, it is Obama being an idiot again. - 09/02/2012 04:52:01 AM 198 Views
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Also, kudos for linking to a source, and a fairly non-partisan one as well. - 09/02/2012 01:33:07 PM 241 Views
I am a non-partisan guy, so I only use unbiased sources! *NM* - 09/02/2012 04:02:50 PM 125 Views
Is there really such a thing? *NM* - 09/02/2012 04:11:30 PM 108 Views
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The subject line didn't help. *NM* - 09/02/2012 06:04:11 PM 110 Views
But it added some flair to the discussion! *NM* - 09/02/2012 07:46:47 PM 99 Views
You actually think any of us has 'credibility' anymore in regards to neutrality? *NM* - 09/02/2012 06:46:13 PM 100 Views
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Some would say putting a spotlight on it is more honest. *NM* - 09/02/2012 09:34:17 PM 98 Views
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One last point - 10/02/2012 11:35:25 PM 152 Views
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In other words, I could. - 11/02/2012 04:21:05 AM 107 Views
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LMAO due to Obama's compromise (the word compromise should have a in it ) - 11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM 183 Views
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The polls disagree with you. - 11/02/2012 02:32:59 AM 143 Views
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Nossy that was not Joel, that was me - 11/02/2012 01:56:39 PM 224 Views
I know that. - 11/02/2012 03:23:32 PM 224 Views
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