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mmm... nossy Send a noteboard - 11/02/2012 08:20:26 PM
Pretty much he has done accounting math to obtain everything he wanted but get rid of the complaints.

but I do think he's accomplishing what he meant to, which is important for me. The polls aren't killing him because this is what many women (and I have to assume men?) secretly want - it infuriates me that many of them won't say this in front of their peers for fear of judgement, but it still shows that there is a silent majority in favor of affordable contraception. (I point this out as someone who has recently been discussing tooooooo much with several different types of female friends/family members. I can't say it makes me completely correct, but the comments certainly seem to support me.)

Joel, I love you, but I can no longer read your "Obama bomb" posts, so I have no idea what other discussion is happening here, and will be leaving now. You sound like triscuit. Ugh.

I cannot really blame you. I am just frustrated, disillusioned and bitter over Obama turning out to be yet another Republican Lite Democrat and what those policies are doing to the nation and world. This is not a win for womens health. That depends on insurers agreeing to offer free contraceptive coverage because 1) It makes economic sense (they would already give free coverage if it were that simple) and 2) they want in on insurance exchanges that will not exist until two years from now.

Do not hold your breath. But Obama can yet again tell progressives he delivered for us even though he actually abandoned us, and the torch-wielding villagers sick of puritanical robber barons will go out and vote for him again because "he fights for us." No one fights for us; America is every man for himself now.

It seems to me that you're too far to the left to view it clearly - America is simply NOT that progressive yet, and Obama is going back to pretty much where he has to be. I won't claim that he's been some sort of genius, but he IS essentially what I expected - "republican lite" is a cute term you like to use, but I think we're just learning what happens when one side tries to work in compromises and everyone is used to ultimatums, so it doesn't work (or appears not to).

Every time I read one of your posts that touches on this, I get the feeling that you're convinced he should be the man everyone talked about in the campaign. We all knew that couldn't happen. Govt doesn't work like that. So anyway, I don't want to sit here and tell you I think you're wrong, so I should probably just shut up and let you keep on. ;)
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mmm... - 11/02/2012 08:20:26 PM 287 Views

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