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Understood. Joel Send a noteboard - 11/02/2012 07:51:14 PM
Pretty much he has done accounting math to obtain everything he wanted but get rid of the complaints.

but I do think he's accomplishing what he meant to, which is important for me. The polls aren't killing him because this is what many women (and I have to assume men?) secretly want - it infuriates me that many of them won't say this in front of their peers for fear of judgement, but it still shows that there is a silent majority in favor of affordable contraception. (I point this out as someone who has recently been discussing tooooooo much with several different types of female friends/family members. I can't say it makes me completely correct, but the comments certainly seem to support me.)

Joel, I love you, but I can no longer read your "Obama bomb" posts, so I have no idea what other discussion is happening here, and will be leaving now. You sound like triscuit. Ugh.

I cannot really blame you. I am just frustrated, disillusioned and bitter over Obama turning out to be yet another Republican Lite Democrat and what those policies are doing to the nation and world. This is not a win for womens health. That depends on insurers agreeing to offer free contraceptive coverage because 1) It makes economic sense (they would already give free coverage if it were that simple) and 2) they want in on insurance exchanges that will not exist until two years from now.

Do not hold your breath. But Obama can yet again tell progressives he delivered for us even though he actually abandoned us, and the torch-wielding villagers sick of puritanical robber barons will go out and vote for him again because "he fights for us." No one fights for us; America is every man for himself now.
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Democrats bailing on Obama - War against the Catholic Church heats up - 09/02/2012 04:03:35 AM 1096 Views
This is not a war on Catholics, it is Obama being an idiot again. - 09/02/2012 04:52:01 AM 290 Views
For someone who used to be a Con Law professor - 10/02/2012 08:23:34 PM 201 Views
Also, kudos for linking to a source, and a fairly non-partisan one as well. - 09/02/2012 01:33:07 PM 415 Views
I am a non-partisan guy, so I only use unbiased sources! *NM* - 09/02/2012 04:02:50 PM 312 Views
Is there really such a thing? *NM* - 09/02/2012 04:11:30 PM 229 Views
You lost all credibility in the first line of your post. - 09/02/2012 04:49:23 PM 371 Views
The subject line didn't help. *NM* - 09/02/2012 06:04:11 PM 237 Views
But it added some flair to the discussion! *NM* - 09/02/2012 07:46:47 PM 204 Views
You actually think any of us has 'credibility' anymore in regards to neutrality? *NM* - 09/02/2012 06:46:13 PM 219 Views
It's one thing to have a bias. - 09/02/2012 07:28:51 PM 344 Views
Some would say putting a spotlight on it is more honest. *NM* - 09/02/2012 09:34:17 PM 180 Views
Ah, the Rupert Murdoch School of Objectivity. - 09/02/2012 10:15:57 PM 274 Views
Wow, talk about making a supernova out of a couple hydrogen atoms. - 09/02/2012 08:41:44 PM 227 Views
I'm somewhat suprised that Obama blundered this badly. - 10/02/2012 01:40:14 AM 1225 Views
Why? Have you not been paying attention? - 10/02/2012 02:03:43 AM 1585 Views
If I am not satisfied with Romney then my Plan B is to not vote. - 10/02/2012 10:58:34 PM 1527 Views
How does that help anything? Except Romneys election chances, of course. - 11/02/2012 01:08:22 AM 1466 Views
Bullshit. - 11/02/2012 04:29:31 AM 1578 Views
A vote for no one is a vote for more BS. - 11/02/2012 05:55:11 AM 1543 Views
Obama doing this actually impresses me to no end. - 10/02/2012 02:21:10 AM 1679 Views
He is already preparing to cave. - 10/02/2012 02:42:32 AM 1623 Views
Why are you even replying to me? What you said has little meaning to what I said. - 10/02/2012 03:33:27 AM 1503 Views
"And here I thought he was just another politician." - 10/02/2012 01:29:36 PM 1524 Views
Aaaaand you can put your hat back on now: Obama has already caved. - 10/02/2012 04:04:30 PM 1584 Views
So Jehovah Witness employers should not have to pay for blood transfusions? - 10/02/2012 03:57:47 AM 295 Views
Not if it conflicts with their religious beliefs. - 10/02/2012 04:20:32 PM 352 Views
Money is not the same as speech! - 10/02/2012 07:20:56 PM 226 Views
One last point - 10/02/2012 11:35:25 PM 328 Views
The federal government forcing private groups to facilitate without committing sin also infringes. - 11/02/2012 01:03:30 AM 252 Views
You argument does not make sense - 11/02/2012 01:26:57 AM 265 Views
It was an analogy, not an equivalency. - 11/02/2012 01:48:14 AM 257 Views
Lets enhance your analogy making it closer to reality - 11/02/2012 02:19:41 AM 342 Views
Why could I not buy it with my own money? - 11/02/2012 03:46:33 AM 339 Views
Re: Why could I not buy it with my own money? - 11/02/2012 04:17:17 AM 239 Views
In other words, I could. - 11/02/2012 04:21:05 AM 144 Views
Some more points - 11/02/2012 02:30:27 AM 352 Views
Sex is not a necessity either. - 11/02/2012 03:56:51 AM 329 Views
I can't believe you just said that - 11/02/2012 04:30:12 AM 213 Views
The widespread inability to believe that is deeply worrisome. - 11/02/2012 06:33:01 AM 356 Views
LMAO due to Obama's compromise (the word compromise should have a in it ) - 11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM 359 Views
Obama just got two weeks of being portrayed as "anti-church" to the point even Dems complained. - 11/02/2012 02:00:28 AM 307 Views
The polls disagree with you. - 11/02/2012 02:32:59 AM 247 Views
It is an interesting article, but not for the polls. - 11/02/2012 04:18:17 AM 325 Views
I wouldn't put too much into that poll anyway - 11/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 441 Views
I don't think it's quite the laughing matter you think it is - 11/02/2012 12:31:23 PM 332 Views
Nossy that was not Joel, that was me - 11/02/2012 01:56:39 PM 368 Views
I know that. - 11/02/2012 03:23:32 PM 377 Views
Understood. - 11/02/2012 07:51:14 PM 329 Views
mmm... - 11/02/2012 08:20:26 PM 311 Views

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