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A vote for no one is a vote for more BS. Joel Send a noteboard - 11/02/2012 05:55:11 AM
I mean he really thought this would fly? If he doesn't change it then those "activist" judges will because it is a blatant violation of the separation between church and state. I am no fan of religion overall and I reject the idea that Obama wants some kind of "war" against religion - that idea is just stupid rhetoric - but moves like this are just mind boggling. They reaffirm to me why I have decided I won't be voting for him again.

What is your plan B? It is not as if we can expect much better from the real Romney (to the extent there is one) than from the Democratic clone of him.

That is setting aside my incredulity at anyone being satisfied with Romney; we know less about how he would govern than we did about Obama in 2008, even though Romney has been in national politics longer. Mitt makes Obama look firm and open by comparison.

However, if both major parties nominate awful candidates, the solution is to seek, support and campaign for a better one, regardless of party, not surrender the government to whichever of those awful candidates everyone else picks. That is how we got into this mess in the first place, and the biggest obstacle to getting out of it.

A no vote for President is just as valid as voting for somebody. I am tired of voting for the lesser evil and refuse to do it anymore. I would only vote for Romney if I took a look at what he wants to do and believe it beneficial to the nation. If he blows then he blows and I won't vote for him. I already know Obama blows, it is clear he doesn't know what to about the economy. He will get my vote when Hell freezes over.

You act like there are only two candidates. Widespread willingness to act that way is why those candidates need only agree collude on the means of screwing us to obviate the election. Find an independent or third party candidate you feel better represents you. Hell, vote for Zippy the Pinhead, but refusing to exercise your role in government then bitching about that government is juvenile. More importantly, it is counterproductive and ensures the system only remains the same or gets worse.
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Democrats bailing on Obama - War against the Catholic Church heats up - 09/02/2012 04:03:35 AM 661 Views
This is not a war on Catholics, it is Obama being an idiot again. - 09/02/2012 04:52:01 AM 104 Views
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Also, kudos for linking to a source, and a fairly non-partisan one as well. - 09/02/2012 01:33:07 PM 113 Views
I am a non-partisan guy, so I only use unbiased sources! *NM* - 09/02/2012 04:02:50 PM 30 Views
Is there really such a thing? *NM* - 09/02/2012 04:11:30 PM 29 Views
You lost all credibility in the first line of your post. - 09/02/2012 04:49:23 PM 109 Views
The subject line didn't help. *NM* - 09/02/2012 06:04:11 PM 30 Views
But it added some flair to the discussion! *NM* - 09/02/2012 07:46:47 PM 28 Views
You actually think any of us has 'credibility' anymore in regards to neutrality? *NM* - 09/02/2012 06:46:13 PM 27 Views
It's one thing to have a bias. - 09/02/2012 07:28:51 PM 85 Views
Some would say putting a spotlight on it is more honest. *NM* - 09/02/2012 09:34:17 PM 29 Views
Ah, the Rupert Murdoch School of Objectivity. - 09/02/2012 10:15:57 PM 51 Views
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How does that help anything? Except Romneys election chances, of course. - 11/02/2012 01:08:22 AM 52 Views
Bullshit. - 11/02/2012 04:29:31 AM 64 Views
A vote for no one is a vote for more BS. - 11/02/2012 05:55:11 AM 61 Views
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He is already preparing to cave. - 10/02/2012 02:42:32 AM 79 Views
Why are you even replying to me? What you said has little meaning to what I said. - 10/02/2012 03:33:27 AM 66 Views
"And here I thought he was just another politician." - 10/02/2012 01:29:36 PM 62 Views
So Jehovah Witness employers should not have to pay for blood transfusions? - 10/02/2012 03:57:47 AM 80 Views
Not if it conflicts with their religious beliefs. - 10/02/2012 04:20:32 PM 78 Views
One last point - 10/02/2012 11:35:25 PM 54 Views
The federal government forcing private groups to facilitate without committing sin also infringes. - 11/02/2012 01:03:30 AM 52 Views
You argument does not make sense - 11/02/2012 01:26:57 AM 82 Views
It was an analogy, not an equivalency. - 11/02/2012 01:48:14 AM 58 Views
Lets enhance your analogy making it closer to reality - 11/02/2012 02:19:41 AM 65 Views
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Re: Why could I not buy it with my own money? - 11/02/2012 04:17:17 AM 47 Views
In other words, I could. - 11/02/2012 04:21:05 AM 39 Views
Some more points - 11/02/2012 02:30:27 AM 59 Views
Sex is not a necessity either. - 11/02/2012 03:56:51 AM 55 Views
I can't believe you just said that - 11/02/2012 04:30:12 AM 48 Views
The widespread inability to believe that is deeply worrisome. - 11/02/2012 06:33:01 AM 60 Views
LMAO due to Obama's compromise (the word compromise should have a in it ) - 11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM 81 Views
Obama just got two weeks of being portrayed as "anti-church" to the point even Dems complained. - 11/02/2012 02:00:28 AM 57 Views
The polls disagree with you. - 11/02/2012 02:32:59 AM 62 Views
It is an interesting article, but not for the polls. - 11/02/2012 04:18:17 AM 53 Views
I wouldn't put too much into that poll anyway - 11/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 91 Views
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Nossy that was not Joel, that was me - 11/02/2012 01:56:39 PM 109 Views
I know that. - 11/02/2012 03:23:32 PM 104 Views
Understood. - 11/02/2012 07:51:14 PM 63 Views
mmm... - 11/02/2012 08:20:26 PM 54 Views

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