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I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything A Deathwatch Guard Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM
My reasoning for it is this. I like guns, others like guns, and so it makes us happy to either have guns, or at the very least have the option open to us to have guns. Yes, guns kill people (it really is people that kill people, but like you said, guns greatly facilitate the process), but lots of things kill people. Cars kill people, gas leaks kill people, toppling trees and hundreds of other things. There's no way to protect everyone from everything, or even to protect a single person from everything. If all guns magically vanished, then that guy in Colorado would have planted a bomb and set that off instead. He clearly had the ability considering what was in his apartment. I don't know the statistics, so I don't know whether and in what way gun restrictions would impact crime. I can see it going either way, but the majority of me (the cynical, and therefore realistic part) thinks that if it does any good, it would be a very insubstantial amount. So the question is, do we want to anger and upset millions of people, to preserve maybe a handful of lives a year?

And perhaps it makes me callous or evil to say so, but for me the answer is no. More people than that will die from choking on random bits of food, or a multitude of other things that are as much outside the control of the victim as being shot by a psychopath.

That said, I have no problem with some sorts of background checks. For instance, if the person has been accused and convicted of violent crime, or something along those lines. And a mandatory course on gun maintenance, safety, and shooting, for all buyers would be a good idea. Nothing too strenuous, we're not training people to re-enact Call of Duty in real life, but enough for them not to shoot themselves or others accidentally, or confuse the safety with the trigger. After all, we require people to get driver's licenses, so some sort of gun training program doesn't seem like a ridiculous or even difficult to implement idea.
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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM 1423 Views
Kind of? - 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM 869 Views
Agreed - 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM 718 Views
Re: Agreed - 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM 862 Views
A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too. - 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM 848 Views
Feisty. - 25/07/2012 09:54:31 PM 947 Views
I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM 785 Views
I am mostly in agreement with you. - 26/07/2012 02:11:56 AM 662 Views
Fully automatic weapons are already forbidden, aren't they? - 27/07/2012 02:19:57 AM 786 Views
Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM 859 Views
I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. - 25/07/2012 11:41:13 AM 918 Views
Re: I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. - 25/07/2012 01:21:36 PM 796 Views
Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns - 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM 996 Views
I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM 898 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM 807 Views
Re: - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM 848 Views
Okay, that makes no sense - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM 857 Views
Re: Re: - 25/07/2012 05:50:23 PM 885 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. - 25/07/2012 10:48:46 PM 887 Views
I understand, but you probably should if time permits - 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM 1006 Views
It is unlikely to, for a while. - 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM 887 Views
Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though - 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM 819 Views
... his was shorter? - 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM 740 Views
Yeah but mine had diagrams! - 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM 818 Views
I do sometimes need pictures. - 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM 674 Views
Re: I do sometimes need pictures. - 26/07/2012 04:57:57 PM 816 Views
*NM* - 26/07/2012 05:23:11 PM 397 Views
Where exactly did you get those numbers? - 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM 843 Views
He's right as far as numbers go. - 27/07/2012 08:08:02 PM 875 Views
Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM 902 Views
Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies. - 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM 805 Views
I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM 797 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 09:14:34 PM 774 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents - 31/07/2012 11:56:05 PM 936 Views
Norway? Scotland? - 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM 779 Views
You can keep this up - 25/07/2012 09:56:28 PM 771 Views
Hi, Cannoli. - 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM 786 Views
well it could have at least double posted the edited version - 26/07/2012 10:40:32 PM 739 Views
Most of those numbers come from inner city violence - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM 959 Views
Re: Hi, Cannoli. - 09/08/2012 09:07:03 PM 839 Views
The UK tightened gun laws after the Dunblane massacre. - 25/07/2012 10:58:08 PM 730 Views
I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people - 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM 848 Views
The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic - 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM 750 Views
Bullshit - 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM 893 Views
I call Bullshit on your Bullshit - 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM 807 Views
Or - 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM 713 Views
There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater - 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM 729 Views
HE was talking about normal people. - 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM 829 Views
I think we are talking past each other - 26/07/2012 05:55:48 PM 788 Views
Possibly. We do do that. - 26/07/2012 06:52:58 PM 823 Views
In addition to random thoughts's points... - 26/07/2012 03:10:56 PM 751 Views
You're partially right but mostly wrong - 26/07/2012 05:46:27 PM 809 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong.... - 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM 970 Views
You're wrong - 25/07/2012 04:37:22 PM 737 Views
Yes. - 25/07/2012 05:09:36 PM 740 Views
Yes and I am glad it's not my problem. - 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM 881 Views
Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense - 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM 783 Views
It makes lots of sense, actually. - 25/07/2012 11:55:59 PM 781 Views
They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM 388 Views
they don't typically bring guns here either - 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM 869 Views
That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers - 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM 722 Views
Ha! - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 PM 653 Views
One of my Marine friends became a Fort Worth cop when he got out - 26/07/2012 03:11:12 PM 839 Views
You get some wild stories - 26/07/2012 06:09:52 PM 853 Views
Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun - 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM 746 Views
Agreed. It's really a lot like health care, in a way. - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 AM 857 Views
Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms. - 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM 816 Views
assault rifles are banned - 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM 779 Views
Touchy - 28/07/2012 04:33:46 AM 968 Views

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