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Okay, that makes no sense Isaac Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM
Pipe bombs are even easier to make than guns, and in a crowded theater or bus would probably kill even more than a single person armed with guns... which is exactly what was happening in Israel/Palestine what, 15 years ago?

yeah a bomb could have *potentially* done more damage as far as number of dead/injured, but the people who set bombs like that don't usually do so without a clear agenda for setting it off. even though james holmes clearly had the means and knowledge to create a set of bombs, he chose instead to go with guns to do the actual killing. there is a reason for that, and i'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with how relatively easy it is to get a gun in the US :rolleyes:


"The psychotic murder with explosives decided not to commit mass murderer when it turned out he couldn't get guns" makes as much sense as assuming he'd cancel the 'event' if the gun store didn't have his preferred variety of assault rifle. He didn't have the 'means and knowledge', he had the objects themselves last I heard. Had he used explosives, he'd probably have killed more people, and I think it's pretty absurd to imply he would have called it off sans AR-15.
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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? wooly - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM 1511 Views
Kind of? nossy - 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM 961 Views
Agreed wooly - 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM 834 Views
Re: Agreed nossy - 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM 944 Views
A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too. Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM 940 Views
Feisty. nossy - 25/07/2012 09:54:31 PM 1042 Views
I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything A Deathwatch Guard - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM 875 Views
I am mostly in agreement with you. wooly - 26/07/2012 02:11:56 AM 745 Views
Fully automatic weapons are already forbidden, aren't they? A Deathwatch Guard - 27/07/2012 02:19:57 AM 869 Views
Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) snoopcester - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM 959 Views
I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. Stephen - 25/07/2012 11:41:13 AM 1010 Views
Re: I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. snoopcester - 25/07/2012 01:21:36 PM 916 Views
Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns Isaac - 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM 1117 Views
I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM 1014 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM 893 Views
Re: moondog - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM 933 Views
Okay, that makes no sense Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM 940 Views
Re: Re: Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:50:23 PM 974 Views
My dad's gun were stolen and the police said they didn't need to even take fingerprints random thoughts - 25/07/2012 06:58:36 PM 949 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:48:46 PM 974 Views
I understand, but you probably should if time permits Isaac - 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM 1088 Views
It is unlikely to, for a while. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM 977 Views
Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though Isaac - 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM 912 Views
... his was shorter? nossy - 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM 834 Views
Yeah but mine had diagrams! Isaac - 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM 911 Views
I do sometimes need pictures. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM 765 Views
Re: I do sometimes need pictures. Isaac - 26/07/2012 04:57:57 PM 914 Views
*NM* nossy - 26/07/2012 05:23:11 PM 435 Views
Where exactly did you get those numbers? Legolas - 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM 926 Views
He's right as far as numbers go. Nate - 27/07/2012 08:08:02 PM 959 Views
Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation Isaac - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM 999 Views
Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies. Legolas - 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM 916 Views
I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM 888 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Legolas - 31/07/2012 09:14:34 PM 866 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 11:56:05 PM 1033 Views
Norway? Scotland? Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM 865 Views
You can keep this up nossy - 25/07/2012 09:56:28 PM 851 Views
Hi, Cannoli. Nate - 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM 871 Views
well it could have at least double posted the edited version random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:32 PM 825 Views
Most of those numbers come from inner city violence random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM 1044 Views
Re: Hi, Cannoli. Cannoli - 09/08/2012 09:07:03 PM 941 Views
The UK tightened gun laws after the Dunblane massacre. Rebekah - 25/07/2012 10:58:08 PM 820 Views
And yet, the people who do these things tend to be more respectful of guns Tom - 25/07/2012 03:44:31 PM 882 Views
Well working with dangeorus items tends to lead to respect and caution or a Darwin Award Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:52:13 PM 920 Views
I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people Tom - 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM 959 Views
Re: guns Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:07:30 PM 976 Views
what is the basis for your argument that people would have panicked and forgotten their guns? random thoughts - 25/07/2012 04:45:46 PM 832 Views
My basis is that people are people - subject to panic, confusion, and fear. *NM* Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:46:58 PM 494 Views
Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience Isaac - 25/07/2012 06:14:57 PM 886 Views
Re: Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:45:02 PM 990 Views
Putting your hand on something is a little different then shooting someone Isaac - 25/07/2012 08:13:59 PM 840 Views
The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic random thoughts - 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM 837 Views
Bullshit Roland00 - 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM 977 Views
I call Bullshit on your Bullshit random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM 896 Views
Or nossy - 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM 805 Views
There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM 815 Views
HE was talking about normal people. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM 932 Views
I think we are talking past each other random thoughts - 26/07/2012 05:55:48 PM 892 Views
Possibly. We do do that. nossy - 26/07/2012 06:52:58 PM 917 Views
In addition to random thoughts's points... Tom - 26/07/2012 03:10:56 PM 850 Views
You're partially right but mostly wrong Isaac - 26/07/2012 05:46:27 PM 898 Views
i have pretty strong feelings that they should be better regulated than they currently are moondog - 25/07/2012 03:18:10 PM 833 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong.... Jeordam - 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM 1061 Views
You're wrong Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:37:22 PM 834 Views
I believe it was the ammunition he bought in large amounts online, not the guns themselves. Legolas - 25/07/2012 07:22:31 PM 871 Views
Yes. Palatine - 25/07/2012 05:09:36 PM 833 Views
Yes and I am glad it's not my problem. ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM 964 Views
Well, you're missing the flaw in your reasoning...probably because you're appallingly ignorant Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:19:18 PM 1056 Views
Come back when you can discuss something without attacking someone. ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:58:47 AM 865 Views
Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM 863 Views
It makes lots of sense, actually. Legolas - 25/07/2012 11:55:59 PM 870 Views
They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM* ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM 422 Views
they don't typically bring guns here either random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM 969 Views
That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers Isaac - 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM 820 Views
Ha! ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 PM 741 Views
One of my Marine friends became a Fort Worth cop when he got out random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:11:12 PM 942 Views
You get some wild stories Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:09:52 PM 943 Views
Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM 832 Views
Agreed. It's really a lot like health care, in a way. Legolas - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 AM 948 Views
the argument of if America should have a lot guns is a long over random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:29:50 PM 800 Views
See, there's another one of those BS stats tricks, 'family members' includes suicides and murder Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:47:54 PM 830 Views
Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms. Ghavrel - 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM 929 Views
assault rifles are banned random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM 873 Views
I know the distinction. That's why I want a more clearly defined term for "assault weapon." Ghavrel - 27/07/2012 09:46:11 AM 997 Views
Then stay away from the hyperbole because an Uzi is a sub machinegun so it is banned random thoughts - 27/07/2012 01:48:50 PM 856 Views
Touchy Jedi Wolf Sister - 28/07/2012 04:33:46 AM 1054 Views
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