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Okay, that makes no sense Isaac Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM
Pipe bombs are even easier to make than guns, and in a crowded theater or bus would probably kill even more than a single person armed with guns... which is exactly what was happening in Israel/Palestine what, 15 years ago?

yeah a bomb could have *potentially* done more damage as far as number of dead/injured, but the people who set bombs like that don't usually do so without a clear agenda for setting it off. even though james holmes clearly had the means and knowledge to create a set of bombs, he chose instead to go with guns to do the actual killing. there is a reason for that, and i'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with how relatively easy it is to get a gun in the US :rolleyes:


"The psychotic murder with explosives decided not to commit mass murderer when it turned out he couldn't get guns" makes as much sense as assuming he'd cancel the 'event' if the gun store didn't have his preferred variety of assault rifle. He didn't have the 'means and knowledge', he had the objects themselves last I heard. Had he used explosives, he'd probably have killed more people, and I think it's pretty absurd to imply he would have called it off sans AR-15.
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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? wooly - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM 1597 Views
Kind of? nossy - 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM 1036 Views
Agreed wooly - 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM 920 Views
Re: Agreed nossy - 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM 1022 Views
A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too. Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM 1025 Views
Feisty. nossy - 25/07/2012 09:54:31 PM 1153 Views
I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything A Deathwatch Guard - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM 962 Views
I am mostly in agreement with you. wooly - 26/07/2012 02:11:56 AM 822 Views
Fully automatic weapons are already forbidden, aren't they? A Deathwatch Guard - 27/07/2012 02:19:57 AM 944 Views
Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) snoopcester - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM 1039 Views
I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. Stephen - 25/07/2012 11:41:13 AM 1101 Views
Re: I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. snoopcester - 25/07/2012 01:21:36 PM 1002 Views
Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns Isaac - 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM 1182 Views
I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM 1104 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM 964 Views
Re: moondog - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM 1022 Views
Okay, that makes no sense Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM 1013 Views
Re: Re: Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:50:23 PM 1052 Views
My dad's gun were stolen and the police said they didn't need to even take fingerprints random thoughts - 25/07/2012 06:58:36 PM 1037 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:48:46 PM 1063 Views
I understand, but you probably should if time permits Isaac - 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM 1165 Views
It is unlikely to, for a while. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM 1055 Views
Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though Isaac - 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM 981 Views
... his was shorter? nossy - 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM 918 Views
Yeah but mine had diagrams! Isaac - 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM 984 Views
I do sometimes need pictures. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM 831 Views
Re: I do sometimes need pictures. Isaac - 26/07/2012 04:57:57 PM 982 Views
*NM* nossy - 26/07/2012 05:23:11 PM 478 Views
Where exactly did you get those numbers? Legolas - 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM 1020 Views
He's right as far as numbers go. Nate - 27/07/2012 08:08:02 PM 1044 Views
Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation Isaac - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM 1085 Views
Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies. Legolas - 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM 1007 Views
I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM 974 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Legolas - 31/07/2012 09:14:34 PM 954 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 11:56:05 PM 1127 Views
Norway? Scotland? Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM 934 Views
You can keep this up nossy - 25/07/2012 09:56:28 PM 941 Views
Hi, Cannoli. Nate - 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM 943 Views
well it could have at least double posted the edited version random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:32 PM 915 Views
Most of those numbers come from inner city violence random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM 1128 Views
Re: Hi, Cannoli. Cannoli - 09/08/2012 09:07:03 PM 1051 Views
The UK tightened gun laws after the Dunblane massacre. Rebekah - 25/07/2012 10:58:08 PM 902 Views
And yet, the people who do these things tend to be more respectful of guns Tom - 25/07/2012 03:44:31 PM 977 Views
Well working with dangeorus items tends to lead to respect and caution or a Darwin Award Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:52:13 PM 1005 Views
I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people Tom - 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM 1048 Views
Re: guns Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:07:30 PM 1056 Views
what is the basis for your argument that people would have panicked and forgotten their guns? random thoughts - 25/07/2012 04:45:46 PM 915 Views
My basis is that people are people - subject to panic, confusion, and fear. *NM* Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:46:58 PM 534 Views
Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience Isaac - 25/07/2012 06:14:57 PM 961 Views
Re: Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:45:02 PM 1065 Views
Putting your hand on something is a little different then shooting someone Isaac - 25/07/2012 08:13:59 PM 923 Views
The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic random thoughts - 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM 930 Views
Bullshit Roland00 - 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM 1057 Views
I call Bullshit on your Bullshit random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM 969 Views
Or nossy - 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM 879 Views
There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM 897 Views
HE was talking about normal people. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM 1032 Views
I think we are talking past each other random thoughts - 26/07/2012 05:55:48 PM 979 Views
Possibly. We do do that. nossy - 26/07/2012 06:52:58 PM 1005 Views
In addition to random thoughts's points... Tom - 26/07/2012 03:10:56 PM 926 Views
You're partially right but mostly wrong Isaac - 26/07/2012 05:46:27 PM 982 Views
i have pretty strong feelings that they should be better regulated than they currently are moondog - 25/07/2012 03:18:10 PM 907 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong.... Jeordam - 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM 1140 Views
You're wrong Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:37:22 PM 909 Views
I believe it was the ammunition he bought in large amounts online, not the guns themselves. Legolas - 25/07/2012 07:22:31 PM 950 Views
Yes. Palatine - 25/07/2012 05:09:36 PM 916 Views
Yes and I am glad it's not my problem. ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM 1041 Views
Well, you're missing the flaw in your reasoning...probably because you're appallingly ignorant Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:19:18 PM 1140 Views
Come back when you can discuss something without attacking someone. ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:58:47 AM 942 Views
Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM 955 Views
It makes lots of sense, actually. Legolas - 25/07/2012 11:55:59 PM 962 Views
They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM* ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM 470 Views
they don't typically bring guns here either random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM 1045 Views
That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers Isaac - 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM 902 Views
Ha! ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 PM 818 Views
One of my Marine friends became a Fort Worth cop when he got out random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:11:12 PM 1022 Views
You get some wild stories Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:09:52 PM 1021 Views
Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM 910 Views
Agreed. It's really a lot like health care, in a way. Legolas - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 AM 1013 Views
the argument of if America should have a lot guns is a long over random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:29:50 PM 871 Views
See, there's another one of those BS stats tricks, 'family members' includes suicides and murder Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:47:54 PM 908 Views
Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms. Ghavrel - 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM 999 Views
assault rifles are banned random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM 953 Views
I know the distinction. That's why I want a more clearly defined term for "assault weapon." Ghavrel - 27/07/2012 09:46:11 AM 1078 Views
Then stay away from the hyperbole because an Uzi is a sub machinegun so it is banned random thoughts - 27/07/2012 01:48:50 PM 929 Views
Touchy Jedi Wolf Sister - 28/07/2012 04:33:46 AM 1135 Views
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